[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, guys, welcome back to the Drone on Show. I'm Mike.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: And I'm Kevin.
[00:00:03] Speaker A: This week we're going to be talking about the T100 again. Of course, we got to talk about that thing all the time. It feels like that.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Getting close.
[00:00:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it is getting close.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: We talked about the part 108, right. Just recently announced, we get into the details of what it might look like.
[00:00:17] Speaker A: And why is there beef between drones and airplanes and helicopters. We'll get into that for a little bit.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: This is already episode 19 of the drone on Show.
[00:00:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Got to thank you guys for the support that you guys have given us here. It means a lot and I'm telling you, it's only going to continue getting better from here. So.
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[00:00:43] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: How do you clean your drones? I mean, how do you do it?
[00:00:48] Speaker A: I don't clean them till they need cleaned. Like when they're really dirty or they have a lot of. A lot of stuff on the leading edge. I'll just take a hose and spray it down a little bit. Take a rag that's wet and wipe it down. I don't have a special cleaning. Like there's guys that now have made this special drone cleaning solution.
Nothing special about it. It's just use a degreaser of some kind. There's a product out called Mighty Boss that I like. D. Dennis uses something that he got, I think at Walmart. It's a degreaser again. Just sprays it on his drones. It'll eat away the bugs. And the old product that you've sprayed, it'll eat away and just spray it down. Take a rag and wipe it off.
It's really not super complicated now. If you want to go into really in depth cleaning, you know, you could get like a little toothbrush and go into the. In the cracks. No, I'm serious.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Do people do that?
[00:01:46] Speaker A: I see him. I see them. Do it in China at the end of a season where you're trying to clean up a drone to get it for like selling it. Maybe you really just want to clean every crack. You could do that. But I'm. I'm not doing that. Like, these are implements. They're farm implements. Yes. Spray them down, clean them best. You can. Get some of the, the big grub off of it. But for the most part, they're going to be fine.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: Makes me think of the T100 that we saw that we flew in China.
It had duct tape on it. It had, I mean.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. Yeah, that, that T100 in China, that thing was, that thing was used, but it had 20, 000 acres on it.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: And, and I, I think they were hammering on it as well to see, you know, what are the weak points. Because they're probably early adopters in China where they give their feedback back to DJI to make improvements. And that thing was still hanging on.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: That's one thing I think people don't realize is that the version that we get in the US is slightly different than the version that's flown for six to 12 months in China.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: And they've found the breakpoints, the weak points, they've replaced those and we get actually a superior product. So it's one of the reasons. And I guess that that product also probably is released in the Chinese market then as well. I think they phase out the old kind as they bring out new ones.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: I was watching something. There's actually a max takeoff weight in China. So the T100, because it's going to be bigger in the United States and other parts of the world with the 26 gallon tank on it, they could, they wouldn't even be allowed to use that in China because the takeoff weight is too, too heavy.
So I don't know. I mean that, that is interesting because then it makes me think like, oh, oh, geez, are we going to be like some test pilots here? Because think about it like if we're going to be carrying more, bigger tanks than what they, they were doing in China, now we might be testing out this stuff and seeing if it actually can hold up. So yes, I'm excited for the T100 and I think there's tons and tons and tons of people excited for the T100 in the United States.
I think we should prepare ourselves for some challenges coming down the road.
One, and we've talked about it before, is just the battery management. Like if you think of a heavier load with a 1000 milliamp higher than what the T60X has right now, it's just not clicking. It's just not making sense in my brain how that battery will be enough and is it going to overheat? I think that the drone will fly fine, but will the batteries overheat? Will the batteries be able to be charged fast enough? These are things we don't know until we actually Fly.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And so you're saying with a load that's so much bigger on the T100 than the T60X, a simple thousand milliamps more isn't going to really move the needle on.
[00:04:48] Speaker A: But to me, it doesn't seem like it could. But I might be wrong.
Yeah. I don't know. I am excited for the, you know, the bigger payload, the faster flying, the lidar. All the things. Right. All the things that the T100 has. I'm just trying to think realistic. Right. Like we don't go based on the spec sheets and we talk about this not just in podcasts, but on our website. Like, we give you real life data of how many acres you might be able to cover. And so, you know, the T100, only time will tell how good and how efficient it's actually going to be once you're out hammering and covering some acres. Because I'm not just going to go based on the book. Yes, you might be able to do based on the book for 30 minutes or an hour, but how's it going to do when you're out there running for 14 hours?
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. And the sun in the conditions.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: I mean, all the things.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah, we, we put it through the paces. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm excited about that. But I'm saying this for people that are, you know, thinking of buying a T100 because they're coming, we might be testing stuff because if China didn't have a 26 gallon tank. Who. Who had a 26 gallon tank to test it, to know if it's going to work.
Did you think of that?
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And how big is the tank that they have in China?
[00:06:10] Speaker A: I think that was 18.5 or something like that.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So you've got to think they're doing internal testing and stuff, but definitely not like widespread.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah, correct. Probably not like actually out in the field they definitely do testing. I mean, you can see their testing facility. They put the drone on like this vibrating thing and they, they make it move and all that type of stuff. But like out there hammering on, you know, different fields, lengths, different lengths, small fields, all that kind of stuff.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: But, you know, I mean, I guess I hadn't really thought that through. The way you're saying it is on the T60, if, when you're doing those straight runs, we would only fill up the tank. Not even full.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: No.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: Because the battery can't, can't do two rows. It can only do, you know, going and back then. Yeah. How does that make sense that you increase the tank so much more than you increase the battery.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I know that. That's what I'm saying. Like I. Only time will tell. Like we, we can sit here and try to analyze and think of how we're going to do it, but I would have never thought that the T60 that we're, you know, it's a 13.2 gallon tank. That's what comes standard. And then you can upgrade to the orchard kit, which is 15.9 gallons. Of course I just rip that 132 off right away, throw on that 19 or that 15 9. Because I want, I want to carry more, I want to cover more acres per fill up. Well, it doesn't work like that because the battery consumption, you deplete your battery so much you can't charge it fast enough by the time it returns. And so think about it. It's a 13.2 gallon tank is standard. And we weren't even filling it. Maybe, I would say maybe 40% of the time we went to 13 gallons just to clean up like the last field or whatever or the last route of a field. But oftentimes we were right around that, you know, 10 to 12 gallons is what we were putting in it because of battery management. And I think we're gonna get into the same, same issues with the T100 with that is yes, you have a 26 gallon tank, but when are you ever going to put 26 gallons in it? Now out in the middle of nowhere in Kansas where we, you know, you have a 1 1/2 mile run down on 1 1/2 mile run back. Maybe it can do it.
It's all just talk. Why don't we just.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: So I'm just thinking though, the other variable would be the charging speed of like.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: Okay, so let's talk about you. Literally the battery from 30 to 90% will charge 8 in 8 to 9 minutes. Okay, 8 to 9 minutes for one battery saying T60X.
It's the 100. Same thing.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: Same thing.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: Yep, same thing. It's in the, that's what the spec book says, eight to nine minutes. Okay, so let's say you take 26 gallons and you fly down 45 miles per hour and you fly back 45 miles per hour. Say that flight takes. You could put it in grout and tell you exactly how long that flight's going to take to go down and back at 45 miles an hour, a mile and a half. We should do that so we can tell the viewers. Let's say that it's four and a Half minutes. Well, you pull that battery out and you put it in standby because you still have one that's charging because it still needs four and a half minutes. Then you go, you fly down, you fly back. Okay. Now between eight, nine minutes now, you take that battery out, you put it into your drone, you put the other one in, you fly down, fly back, you caught up with your batteries, if you have three batteries.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: So, but that the other big thing that's changing from the T60X to the T100 is the flight speed. What's the increase there?
[00:09:36] Speaker A: 15 miles an hour? More. Yeah.
[00:09:38] Speaker B: Which is percentage wise. Is that like, what is that like 50, 50% faster?
[00:09:44] Speaker A: I don't know what the calculation would be, but it's going to seem a ton faster.
[00:09:49] Speaker B: And that's got to be how it works. I mean that's the only way, right, is if you can lay it down.
You do. If you were able to do 40% more acres in the same flight time then the bigger.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: That's why I thought that the T60X is not going to have a problem with it either because that thing was, you know, it went from 22 miles an hour with the T50 to 30 miles an hour with the T60. And I was like, well it can fly faster so it's going to get the load off faster.
Well, yeah, but it didn't like that.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: What I'd be interested in here, and I think that the viewers would also is with the T60X, you've been ripping on it not just in Kentucky, but around here the last couple weeks. What are the numbers, the real world numbers that you would give somebody who asked you about the T60X today in.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: Any type of situation, cut up acres or nice acres. The real life numbers that I think that a guy should and could expect is 45 acres per hour per drone. Now if it's buttery smooth, nice fields, 50 to 55 acres per hour.
With the T50 when we were cut up really hard type stuff, 35 to 40, so we bounced up to, you know, 5 acres per hour more per drone with the T60X. Now where it really shines is those big, big fields. You could not, it was hard to get that T50 to do over 45 acres per hour. That's two gallon work. You're just not going to get it to do that because it's, it's flying so much slower.
So yeah, in wide open, big, big fields, maybe the T100 is going to be able to, you know, do. If I would guess I would say 65 to 70 acres per hour, two gallon work maybe. But that's, that's just talk. Like it's just like they can tell us it does 70 acres per hour. Yeah, right. Like what's real life? Yeah, what's real life?
[00:11:55] Speaker B: And the other side of that is having the equipment to support it. Like you're talking off of a new way trailer.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Yeah, Yep.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: So if you were like that would really be affected if you were flying off the ground or you didn't have an easy fit.
[00:12:06] Speaker A: Oh, 100%. And the biggest thing that these, these you know, drones come down to is charging speed of the battery. Like if you cannot charge your batteries basically in the same amount of time that it consumes it, your egger per hour is going to drop drastically. I mean we even, we, we even had to deal with, you know, T60X is that we, we were pulling batteries at 75 to 80% because they weren't full yet. Well then Instead of putting 10 gallons in, we were doing eight and a half gallons but we were still covering acres. Yes. We were not getting, you know, that five acres or seven acres per load. But even if we went out and we did three and a half acres with a load, it was better than sitting there for another three and a half minutes waiting on that battery to charge.
So when people look at their battery management, they have to look at, they have to keep the drone in the air. I do not care if you're getting three and a half acres done per load or if you're getting seven acres done. Yes, it feels more efficient getting seven acres done per load. But if you're waiting on batteries and your drone is sitting on your trailer, you are making $0 at least if you're getting 3 acres covered while you wait on your last battery to get fully charged. So you now can do a five and a half to seven acre load. Good.
But definitely don't leave it sit there.
I mean, pull it out, keep moving 6 to 8 gallons. It's embarrassing. Putting 6 to 8 gallons of fluid in a 15.9 gallon tank. It's just such a waste.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: It's when you're doing that kind of work where the drones are ripping, then it's, you know, you look down and you see a battery that's fully charged and it's sitting in the charge box, you're like, oh, I, I totally dropped the ball on this one. And you know, because swapping those batteries is so key, it's like the whole operation slows down if that's well, and.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Then guys could tell, could say something like, well, get an extra generator and a charger. That is true. That would definitely help alleviate some of this stuff. But it al. It all costs money. What is a, a charging system? Right now the generator is probably 5,000, 6,000 bucks. You can add that to your, your fleet if money's not a problem. Yeah, just add another generator, another charger and it'll make things easier. But when I'm giving these numbers, it is giving you the numbers based on the, the kit that we tell people. Three flight batteries, you know, one generator to one drone.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: So that's what we fly. We tell people to fly what we fly.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what we fly. Now I do think that the T100, depending how the better battery management is, you might need extra generators.
And you know, we're Talking about the T100 being bigger and you know, battery management because we love the DJI platform and that's what we're leaning toward. But you know, the J150, the EA drone was just released and that's, that's a huge frigging drone. We, we seen it in China. Taylor's going to try to get us one a J150. But, but how are they going to charge those batteries?
Because, you know, that's a huge battery too. At least DJI builds a generator that's a three phase generator that is supposed to put that amount of power back into the battery.
I wonder what the solution is for the J150.
Are we going to be, you know, running a, you know, 50 kilowatts generator that weighs 2 to 3,000 pounds? That's a diesel. Yes, diesel's nice. It's quiet, but you will be heavy just to keep up with the batteries. And then I still don't even know how they're going to charge it. We're getting to a point where these drones are so big and it just takes so much more of everything, so much more of everything to, to keep them flying, keep them efficient.
At some point we're gonna hit it. We're gonna hit that generator, battery consumption, payload wall, I think.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: And when we, I mean, when we were in China, we were asked about even a bigger drone than the T100 and we didn't know how to answer because we got to first experience a 28 gallon drone.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: 26.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah, 26 gallon. But then like the, the new newly suggested part, 108, that raises, oh my gosh. Weight limit from 55 drone. 55 pounds to.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: 20 pounds.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: 20 pounds yeah, like that, that's just a good way of illustrating what's happened. I don't know when the one, when the 107 was released, but what, five, 10 years ago?
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I would say probably something like that.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: And like £55 is now almost like there's so much. It's laughable.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it's laughable. I mean, the FAA sees that they need to do something and it was, it was because of Trump. You know, he, he signed that executive order.
Get your butts moving. We need to move forward to catch up with other countries like China that are doing so much drone technology stuff. And now the proposed. This is a proposed one away. It's not that it's guaranteed set in law yet. It's open for public comment. But if this 108 comes through. Dude, this is a whole different ball game. I mean, I, it's.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: And you got to think it's going to come through in some form.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: Right.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: Like it will happen.
[00:17:23] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: And I think after it. It was proposed, they have nine months or 270 days to approve it. But you know, they were laid on instead of, I think 30 days.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: 30 days. It was 90 days.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: 90 or 120, I think.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: So.
But yeah, let's. Shall we get into a little bit of what the, the one like what, what people are. You know, we haven't done a huge deep dive into it. It's pretty new. But from, you know, some observation, here's kind of what the changes would be.
[00:17:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
You know, more about it. You read into it more than I did.
[00:17:52] Speaker B: Yeah. So I think the biggest, like the biggest game changers are let's, like there's a path to allow beyond visual line of sight. Whereas before it's all been like visual line of sight, which means all of the FPV goggles and people flying around. Unless they have a specific waiver, then it's technically probably not legal.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Yep.
Unless you, unless you would have had a void.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: Unless you have a vo. Yeah. Yep. So. And the whole point of this is to allow stuff like agriculture, transportation. Transportation, yep. Right.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Yeah. So the whole flight cart thing, like when the flight cart was first released, Flycart 30, we were making content.
We still do stuff, but everybody got their paintings in a wad. Like, wait, how can you do that? It's not agriculturally, it's this. It's that. Well, this is gonna, it's gonna open it up for that, like become a lifting service. You know, what's it going to take to get a, have a Lifting service.
It's going to be a lot more outlined of what you can and cannot.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: Do and there'll be a pathway for it. Right. Because it's been so frustrating for us, we filed four different times amendments and requests to get a, a part 91.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: That would allow us to use drones to actually transport things in a safe manner over uninhabited areas in the wilderness.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: And the faa, it, it's like they have a. You can't do it.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah, well, they were just trying to stall it because they never were asked these questions and they didn't know how to give us the exemption because once they give one exemption, then they have to give everybody the exemption. Like.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: And I learned something new last week because I always thought the FAA was like, what's their core mandate? It's to ensure the safety of the general public.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: That's what we thought.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I thought. It's I, when I think of the faa, it's like they're a safety organization and they have rules and regulations, not their actual mandate.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: Ain't that crazy?
[00:19:41] Speaker A: Can you tell us what I think.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: Their actual mandate is? To enable commerce and the like, the profit in airspace or something to that effect.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: Yeah. When they were originally established, that is what the agency was there for.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: Y. And it's almost like it's become more of a let's keep it safe and you know, and it makes sense because whenever there's an accident, then there's this huge, you know, issue with. I mean, it's a big deal. Right. When there's fatalities.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Yes. Safety. You want safety. But I was looking at the FAA wrong where it's like that's the only reason they're here is for safety. Well, that is not true. They are here for commerce.
[00:20:21] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:20:21] Speaker B: And. And it's in the same way that our roads would be safer if There was a 30 mile an hour limit. You'd have less deaths, but.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Oh, true fact. So then you also wouldn't get commerce.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: Right. You couldn't get anything done and whatever. But that would be safer. And it feels like it's the same thing with the airways, where there is a safest, but there's also, you know, like, we need to figure out how to use drones because the world is changing.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: Yeah. That's interesting.
Yeah. So beyond line of sight, that's going to be a big thing. Even if you're talking drones that are, you know, £100, they can take a five pound package from Amazon or Walmart and drop it off in less than 30 minutes when somebody orders it. That's totally going to be a thing. Guaranteed.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: It's. And imagine how amazing is it going to be for an entrepreneur that doesn't have to wait three to six months to get the paperwork to fly his equipment.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Yep.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: I mean, that is.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: You're saying if he's starting a lifting service or if he's starting an agricultural spray business.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: Yeah, because right now it's like, it's illegal. So you got to do an exemption and then that takes, you know, and, and you know, Trump fired 60% of the FAA staff.
So if that's what we're told, that's what we're told. So if they were backed up before then. Yeah, it's. It's backed up now, so you would definitely think so.
You know, other changes like we've seen already with the 107 and the exemptions being granted. We're flying at night. Huge. Right. In Kentucky. It was like, there's actually a subset.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: Of farmers that they want their stuff to plied at night.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: And it's almost like there hasn't been an option.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Before. And now it's like, oh, if you do it at night, we'll do it at night.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: So that's really cool.
[00:21:59] Speaker A: Yeah. There was one farmer that came, came to us. We were doing his friend's farm to clean up. 200 and some acres we were cleaning up and he has seen us operating at night and he had the airplane do 5,000 of his acres, but he seen us operating at night. He's like, I want to do this next year. Because he wanted his done at night, but the airplane is not able to because of where his fields are and the power lines and this and that. And it's like, yeah, that's. We can do that.
[00:22:28] Speaker B: You showed me. This is off the subject of the 108, but you showed me a reel this week and you, you said, what's the big beef between airplane pilots and drone pilots? It's like they're always at each other's neck.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I would say, I would say I was feeding into that in the beginning as well. Like, but you know what I'm going is instead of like just feeding into it is just prove. Right. It's just to prove like that I can do this operation and you can't. You cannot do this operation. I don't care what you say.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Like, what do you mean?
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Okay. A high tension power line goes through a 85 acre piece and I'm operating at night and I'm flying underneath the power line and I'm going right to the edge.
I mean, I don't even need to say what is a better application.
You know, done. Enough said.
Just enough said. I am done playing this like airplane, helicopter, drone stuff. Like get over it. Like, let's move on.
[00:23:25] Speaker C: So you don't think that them being able to do three times as many acres per hour weighs in on anything like that?
[00:23:33] Speaker A: No, it definitely, it definitely weighs in. But give me $2 million and let me buy $2 million worth of drones and let me show you how you manage those drones and I guarantee you I will keep up with you and I will outperform you and I will operate when you can't operate and I will operate in areas you cannot operate in.
I'm sorry. I know it sucks. It hurts to hear, but it's the truth and I proved it.
We were, we were flying under high tension power lines just the other week. Me and Austin in the dark, clearly see it safely operate. Less people on the road, less bees out. Like all these things of why at night it's good. Come to Ohio or go to Kentucky into these fields and try to tell me that you with your airplane do a better, better job. No bueno. It's not happening.
[00:24:31] Speaker C: I think there's always going to be a little bit of contention whenever new technology is introduced. But there's a clear difference from some people that just continue to point out the flaws or how it's not as fast and not as capable in certain areas. But there's others that have embraced the technology and brought it on board into their own operation.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: And, and that's.
[00:24:52] Speaker C: I don't know, what would you call that? Progressive thinking or adapting new technology.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: It was the exact same with thermal drones and dogs.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: Yeah. You know where. Oh, they were beefing us in the beginning. That's only three years ago.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: And I remember this one incident that, you know, the drone.
A pilot was hired and this is a good point that that video brought out that the girl that flies ag ag airplanes, she had mentioned about good operators and bad operators. That's true all across the board. No matter what, what type of business you have, you have good power washers and you have power washers. People that just come in and quickly spray a little water on your house and say, I'm done, it's clean, it's good to go. No, like, same way with thermal drone pilots. We had a thermal drone pilot that came in supposedly quickly, did a search, didn't find it. Early season and then a dog came in and the dog found the deer. The dude was pissed off at the drone pilot. You know, this and that.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: The dog guy was. Or the hunter.
[00:25:56] Speaker A: The dog guy was the dog guy. Yeah, that. You know, the thermal drones don't work and they're just here for the money and they want to grab your stuff. Well, it was a bad experience.
Same, same could be with a spray drone pilot. He could not care. He could do 80 foot route spacing, he could do 15 to 35 foot route altitude. He could do a job. Yes, it's going to be a bad experience, but if you're a good applicator, then I think it's going to be pretty doggone good.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: Yep. And I think what happened with the dogs is like they saw some of the value. They saw the market shifted.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: And a lot of them, in the beginning they added a drone to kind of go alongside the dogs and now they offer both.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: And then like just let the market decide. What does the market want?
[00:26:42] Speaker A: Like, I mean, it was clear that the market wanted thermal drones. Right.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: But now those guys have like rebranded and I think it's cool. Like, and there's some stuff in early season where maybe a dog is still a good fit. Maybe, you know, like that's great.
[00:26:54] Speaker A: Yep. But majority, you have now figured out that majority a thermal drone is less invasive. It does a better job and it allows you to not only maybe find your deer that is dead, but allows you to see, how should I enter to go recover my deer if there's other big deer in the area that are bedded on your property and you don't want to blow them out? Yeah, I, I think sometimes people forget about that part of the, the whole thermal drone recovery is not only can you find your deer, but it gives you a better option of how to go in and recover it. Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: So that same thing, I mean, it's the next step. Right. Is going to be the pilot. The airplane pilots, they just buy a drone and they just, you know, I think that will happen. And then maybe like if, if they.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Don'T do that, they are kidding themselves.
Perfect example. Another, you know, another farmer in Kentucky, he has a friend that is an airplane pilot and he wanted to spray his acres, but he told him, you can spray my acres if you do it at night.
That's it. That's all he said. Well, I can't do it. Okay, well then I'm using a drone.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: Going back to the part 108 hazmat and explosives.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: Yeah, totally.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: Disallowed right now.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: And in the proposed rulings, there will be limited. Limited.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: Like probably like gasoline. You can take gasoline to the back 40 for your.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Okay. Because like, if you think about like carrying your generator with gasoline in it. Not legal.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:33] Speaker B: Right. Technically. Currently.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: And then what we saw in China, what gets us excited about for like a whole new industry is fire suppression that uses explosives to shoot fire suppression.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: Fire retardant. Yeah.
[00:28:45] Speaker B: Fire retarded material like 10, 15ft above the ground. Not legal right now. And in China, it is a significant way that they fight.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Force, I think. I don't want to keep bringing up the same things on these podcasts, but there's a time lapse that I seen in.
In California. There was this. You could see it up on this mountain. There was a little tiny fire that started like if a local fire department would have had a drone with fire suppression. Right. Boom. He could have launched that sucker in no time, go up there. Boom. And drop those things and get that fire under control. Instead of burning off half of the mountainside. Burn off half of the mountainside. When you want to do a controlled burn when the winds are right and this and that, but not when it starts on its own.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's really cool.
See, what else do we see in the, in the 108?
[00:29:31] Speaker A: I. I think the biggest thing that 108 that is going to be talked about is the, the weight of the drone and the beyond line of sight and being allowed to do carry in type services.
Because, you know, the biggest thing was we were carrying generators, we were carrying deer, we were doing tree removal and those types of things. Where did those fall?
You know, where do those fall? And we had people ask us and it's like, well, we're trying to move the industry forward to see what we need to do, but we're showing practical things that this will be used for.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: So. And that makes me think of. I talked to a dealer friend of mine, deals DJI drones. He said he sold a fly cart 30 to a company out of New York City who got permission to do transportation from. I don't know if it's from Maine. It was like populated areas. And the whole.
The thing that makes it work is that there was a $20 fee for cars to enter that part of the city. And it was a two kilometer stretch over the water and you could fly cart like inexp, like, you know, mail, stuff like that, flight card it back and forth without paying a $20 fee. So right from the get go. You have like, you know, there was a business model, but what shocked me was that they actually got the permissions and they aren't running yet, but they have the approvals, the FAA approvals or whatever to do that. And it's like that is in the current environment of 107, difficult.
It's exciting to see people like that testing new business models. And when you have congested traffic on the ground, Elon is like, let's open up the subways underneath the ground and also let's open up the air above the ground.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: So yeah, I get super excited when we talk the heavy lift drones because there's just so many things that I want to do and we will be doing just to.
Yeah. Move the industry forward.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: It's going to be amazing.
[00:31:33] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: Like this, the. With airplanes. You could tell me, but there's like an air certificate or airworthiness certificate, worthiness certificate. And I think in the 108 there isn't going to be that.
[00:31:45] Speaker A: But you will still need to register your drones.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: Yeah, you'll see a registered drones everything. And, but there will be like, like technicians don't need to be certified the same way that they would to work on aircraft.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:55] Speaker B: But they need to have some kind of like practical certification that they've done it or whatever. But. And I think, I think this is good that.
I mean, what do you think? I'm curious what you think for like some of these big drones, you know, they weigh 200, 300, 500 pounds. Shouldn't you need to have a bi yearly checkup by an authorized mechanic or.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: I don't know how I feel about that because there's like an airplane, say you built the RB10 that we fly around the country that's. It's like a Cirrus SR22. It's bigger than a Cessna 172. That's what most people know.
[00:32:28] Speaker B: Bigger than a Cessna 172.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: That's actually I can fly the RV10 and I can work on it and do my own modifications to it if I was the original builder. So same with these drones. Like how much do you have to work on it in order for it allow you to work on it yourself and not have to get in and.
[00:32:49] Speaker B: Would you be able to operate a commercial function with that airplane?
[00:32:54] Speaker A: No, because it is in a category called experimental. Okay. So that, that's the other reason why the FAA has had such a hard time with these drones is if they do give you an airworthiness certificate. What is what category? Are you in? I know that the spray planes are unrestricted or restricted or something like that is what their category is. Restricted category I think is what it is. But what are the drones? I don't even remember what their category is because they don't have that category listed. And so yeah, I think they're trying to get around some of those laws that are written that they need to be in specific categories if they have an airworthiness certificate. So if you have an airworthiness certificate, what category are you? And if they're saying you don't need an airworthiness certificate, it's allowing them to not put you in a category, I think.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And I feel like there, it's like you don't have a life on board the drone. So it seems like the level of requirement should be below an airplane or most commercial airplanes. Like it should not be that stringent. And like we know guys who are spraying, like think of agricultural specifically, 80% of them, they just fix their own drone. If it goes down in the field and they're built that way, you can just do it so it seems like.
[00:34:16] Speaker A: And do it safely. Like they're, you know, put, put the nut and the screw on, put some loctite on, tighten it down to a certain, you know, tightness that you can feel. It's not like if you put this thing on, it's just going to back out on its own. Like it is.
Honestly common sense, repairing these drones is.
[00:34:37] Speaker B: Going to be safe, but it seems like there should be allowance for that. But the bigger of the drone, like when you have a thousand pound drone, it seems like your requirements for safe operation should be, or safe maintenance should be different than that of a hundred pound drone, in my opinion.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, so I think this is what I'm thinking is if the drone goes over a certain weight because this is how the FAA has always done it. There's also a category called part 103. It's for ultralights. I have an ultralight. And what it is is the weight and the speed of the aircraft. They calculate that and figure out how much kinetic energy it would have if it would smack into a building.
And so to operate under a part 103, your aircraft has to weigh under 250 pounds and it cannot fly faster than a certain miles per hour because they, they figured out if it weighs this much and it flies this fast and it smacks into something, it actually the aircraft will be more damaged than the building that it runs into. So I think that the drones will Be the same way. If the drone goes over a certain weight and flies a certain amount, a certain speed, then it cannot cross over populated areas. Now, it can go around a populated area. That's like my ultralight. If I go, let's say I'm going to Canton, Ohio.
I cannot go over Canton, Ohio, because that is a populated area. And my part 103 says I can go around it, I can go up to it and fly around it and then I'm on the other side of it, but I cannot go right over top of it. I think that's what these drones will do. You can take, you know, say I'm just throwing numbers out there. The FA is going to be like, you can take a 350 pound drone over a populated area if it's flying below 35 miles per hour, but if you are taking a drone that is over 350, 350 pounds, it has to go around it. I think that's how they're going to differ what types of drones can operate in what areas where a populated area is.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: And that seems like a pretty practical, common sense approach that.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: I think so.
[00:36:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Would enable commerce and yet keep people safe.
[00:36:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, Yep. Totally agree. I mean, I just don't think that we're going to see a 1300 pound drone transporting a mattress to somebody's backyard. Could it? Yes, it could. I think it's going to take a little bit of time to get there to do it in Canton, Ohio.
Because when that 1,300 pound drone delivers the mattress and is flying 45 miles an hour and something catastrophic happens and it dives down and hits somebody on 77, that's, I think, where the problem will be. Now, a 1,320pound drone out in Aurora area like we are. Right. And it loses a motor. Highly unlikely that it's going to crash into, you know, a busy highway or something like that.
[00:37:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And probably it will also need to have like a parachute or secondary safety features that may give it different permissions.
[00:37:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: To operate in different areas.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. There's just so much. It's completely over my head.
But I am glad that they're doing something about it.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Yes. I mean, overall, the 108 is so needed.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:38:03] Speaker B: For our nation.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Yes. And it will make many more millionaires in the United States and it will make a lot more new businesses pop up. That would never have been possible without it. Guaranteed. Like, I'm just thinking about the islands. There's. There's so many islands around the United States that you don't even think about. There's an island in Wisconsin. Did you know Wisconsin has islands?
[00:38:33] Speaker C: I knew it had islands and a bunch of lakes, but I'm intrigued. Tell me more.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a. There's an island in Wisconsin called Washington. Washington Island. If you look, there's. It would be on north of Green Bay. It'd be northeast of Green Bay. There's an island called Washington island, and it's big. And there's farms out there, and there's people that live there. And the only way they get their stuff there is fairies. Well, you could easily have a drone route fly out to the island, delivering things, practical things, for these people to live out there.
That's just one island that I'm, you know, bringing up. There's tons of those across the United States. There's another island in Michigan called Beaver Island. A lot of people live there. They live there all year. You know, you have Mackinac Island.
That's just some of the islands that people know. And then on the east coast, there's a whole list of islands out there that people live there. Transportation services will be a thing even around here. They're going to be a thing. We do so much construction right now. They're doing construction up on the hill here. Construction guy. Oh, my gosh. We ran out of a box of nails called Climb Lumber. Hey, I need a box of nails out here right away.
Pack it in the drone, zip it out here and have a box of nails in no time.
Like two by fours ran short on three. Two by fours. Can you send a couple two by fours up here? Yep. Okay, here they come. Shoom. They're out there with drones. It is actually real now. Like I used to say. No, it's not going to be a thing. It is going to be a thing. Yep. For sure. Right here. Because right. There's a lot of construction stuff that goes on. You can have a hub that you can. Dude, how often do I go to the hardware? I go to hardware a lot. If I'm working on a project on a Saturday and I go there, I'm saying, well, I might be back a little later because I might not have everything that's going to be a thing. Where it's like, hey, I need. I need some glue. I forgot the glue. Here comes the drone, drops the glue and that.
[00:40:39] Speaker B: So you will not only have the drone entrepreneurs, but the hardware store that you know is with it. They're going to have an app, right? You're going to order it from your app and then in 20 minutes it'll be at your door. Like those people are going to do a whole new level of commerce that will be unlocked by this as well.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And I, I just take it to the ne. The, the next level is these island people. You know, some of the island people will not want the technology because they want the. Takes a week to get my stuff type of experience. But there's also going to be people that like it.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: No, I'm serious.
[00:41:12] Speaker B: You think some people want the.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Oh, 100. Like that's like the people up on Beaver island, when we flew up there and we, we were there for a weekend. The. They just love that.
When you arrive on the island, it feels like it's 1970. Wow. It's just slow. The vehicles are old. Things just don't work as good because it's hard to get parts. It's. It's just everything is hard and people are okay with it.
[00:41:40] Speaker C: One of the things I'm thinking about, Mike, with the delivery here in Ohio, small cut up fields, our scale and what we have, you know, to travel in order to get parts. Have you ever watched Welker Farms, Montana?
[00:41:53] Speaker A: I think I've seen that the name is familiar. The.
[00:41:57] Speaker C: They're big bud tractor guys and they're, you know, their scale of farming is, is massive.
[00:42:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:01] Speaker C: But I'm just thinking of being able to actually take parts out or, or deliver. You know, you're looking at as the crow flies a drone path, you know, in minutes. Compared to being half having to walk yourself out of the field over to a truck, back to the farm, pick up a part, you know, with, with a phone call.
[00:42:20] Speaker A: So true.
[00:42:21] Speaker C: And a delivery service, you are back up and running. You know, just like we're always concerned about keeping in the air. Right. They need to keep those combines and stuff like that. Moving that fly cart delivery to the islands or just, you know, out across the fields. When you're looking at 10 and 20,000 acres that you're farming, you know, the biggest scale out west. Some of these things come into, into real handy.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: You need to get in touch with them and see if we can come do some trial runs with them. Because that's what we're wanting to do is just to come show with the T100. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm telling you, that is when I say when we're making the videos, like when I'm doing, you know, transportation type stuff when we hold the deer out, I said, you know, these things will be used for things that I can't even, you know, explain yet. It's because I don't think of all those things. Like, you know, you're watching that type of video and you're. You're thinking in the back of your mind how the drones could help them.
It's like, I don't live in Alaska. I don't know that you could, you know, need help transporting crabs or whatever it might be.
There's going to be those things that things are going to be used for that. I just. I'm not around it, so I don't think about it. But totally it's going to work for it.
Yeah.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: Like just that crab thing. Like, I don't know for sure. I don't know really at all how it works. Just from TV shows I've seen, But I think they have a bunch of different crab cages or traps, different parts. And a ship goes around, goes up to the crab, pulls it in. They see what they got. Like, soon you'll have a T100 fly cart or a fly cart 100 or something similar. And it'll lower the winch with a magnetic thing that will, like, hit to the top. And the dro and the boat will stay on a. On a course, and the drone will, like, bring in all the flat, you know, all the stuff to the boat y so that the boat doesn't have to go to each one.
[00:44:15] Speaker A: Totally believe that's going to be a thing. Yeah, it's like the. We sold a. A new way ag trailer, the whole rig and everything to a guy. I think he's in south Alabama or Louisiana. And they do crabs in the rice fields. Like, is it crabs? No. Is it crawdads? I don't know what the. The difference is, but they raise those and then they. They net them up and then they fly them back to the farm and then they clean them there. But they put them on like a gator and they drive to the. To the location.
100% drones will be used for that.
Why throw them on the back of a gator and it takes them, you know, 30 minutes to drive to the farm, where you could have a guy with a fly cart, 100 booking it out there getting the load.
Yeah. We could talk on this for hours. The things that it'll be used for.
[00:45:05] Speaker B: The way it looks now, I would say 2026, part 108 is implemented. Would you agree?
[00:45:10] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: That's what it feels like.
[00:45:11] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I think By December of 2026, this thing is ready to rip. Yeah.
[00:45:18] Speaker B: By December of 2026, I think so. So that's 18 months out.
[00:45:21] Speaker A: I think so.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:45:22] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:45:23] Speaker B: So that means for any entrepreneurs out there, you have an idea of how you could use drones in your industry, your space. Like now is the time to start doing your research, start getting comfortable with it, start, you know, like, and then be ready to rip and roll in 2026.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Obviously our biggest challenge right now is getting drones that are capable and function properly and operate good. You know, with this whole DJI trying to stop them at the border, that's, that's becoming hard to figure out what is a good drone to do these things with. Because if, if you're going to have to buy an American drone that is capable of doing these lifting services, it will be disgusting how expensive it will be.
But if DJI and these other drones that are coming from China can figure out their issues of how to get through, you know, through the border, it will make it so much easier for entrepreneurs wanting to get into it.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: For sure. Yeah, there's. Yeah, we've already talked about this before, so I won't go into it again. But there's manufacturing that the same executive orders that are opening up the 108. It'll be a longer lead time, but I do believe there is manufacturing and other like, long term. I think we will have legit American made drones. Oh, American give us five years.
[00:46:44] Speaker A: Yeah, 100. There will be American made drones. What will they cost?
That's the problem. It's like, yeah, we don't have to go down that route. We always bring it up. It's like the TV, build it in America, pay, you know, $90 for it from China or pay $190.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: But, but you did the same thing with cell phones. Like, I don't know how this is all going to work, but Apple, I did see that committed to 600 billion. Ah, man, that seems like a.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: No, I think it was 600 billion.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: So a plant or you know, a series of plants in the US and they did that. Aha. They did that so that they got relief from the tariffs so they didn't hit their product. So that commitment, like, we'll see if it, if they actually follow through.
[00:47:26] Speaker A: No way. So they did that. So then they said you don't need to pay tariffs on the stuff that's coming from China.
[00:47:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:33] Speaker A: As long as you make a commitment.
[00:47:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
Of US based investment.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Oh, what dji, I know you guys probably don't listen to us, but let's talk like.
[00:47:44] Speaker B: And the crazy thing is right now the American made drones are Twice as expensive even after you pay 55% tariffs on a drone made in China. Yeah, that shows you how uncompetitive the landscape is. But I don't know what Apple's going to do. Right, But I don't think you commit to 600 billion. I mean, maybe you do it just to get four years of tax relief and then you abort. You know, I don't know, maybe that's cheaper than paying 55 tariffs on your iPhones and you just throw it away. Or maybe there's actually a path to figuring out how your costs in America are less than the 55% tariffs that you'll pay in China.
And so, yeah, I mean, I don't.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: Know when you're doing billions and billions like they are, I'm sure they, they crunch the numbers and figure out, you know, if we're paying 55% tariffs, how long would it take to pay that back?
[00:48:34] Speaker B: What I want to know is the next president, like, are we going to continue on?
[00:48:38] Speaker A: Right. Exactly.
[00:48:39] Speaker B: Or is it all just going to be like washed away and guys, we're back to business as normal, you know, like what?
You know that. And imagine how hard it is if you're Apple or somebody like that, where you have to plan a 10 year build out and you know, what's it going to be in 10 years?
[00:48:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like there's this huge manufacturing building that was going on up in Columbus. I think it was intel or somebody like that. And then the whole project kind of stopped for a while because they weren't sure about the whole chips thing. It's like, I wonder how many of those projects get started, get ramped up and then like the brakes get put on because of new, you know.
[00:49:16] Speaker B: Dude, talking about Columbus, have you like, heard much about. I think the company's called Andro A.
[00:49:22] Speaker A: I haven't heard like military drone. I know, we talked about it a little bit.
[00:49:26] Speaker B: They're just in the news like, like they have big contracts with the US Military now and their primary drone offering is something like. It's a sidekick to an actual manned airplane.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. They, they basically build a smaller version of like an F22 or an F35, but has no humans in it.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: No humans in it? Yep. And it like flies alongside or in conjunction with an actual manned airplane, but fully AI without relying on like transmissions and stuff.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: It makes me think of the movie, I think it was called Stealth. There's a movie that was called Stealth and there was a, an AI operated stealth jet just like the Manned jet and the, the stealth unmanned kind of took over and was trying to take them all out.
[00:50:15] Speaker B: Yeah, don't want that to happen.
[00:50:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: You ever think about that with ag drones it's going to decide it wants to spray the tree line instead of the fields?
[00:50:24] Speaker A: No, I never even thought about it. Never went through my mind.
I am doing my recertification for my commercial applicators license in the state right now and I have noticed that they are talking a lot more about spray drones than they were when I first got my commercial applicators license. When I first got it, it was all about airplanes and helicopters because they weren't a.
OSU was teaching the class, Ohio State University was teaching the class and there was just not a lot of stuff on drones at that time. And now there's a whole segment that is just talking about spray drones. I was like, okay, this is interesting. Times are changing 100% when the universities are talking about spray drones and teaching about spray drones.
You better start listening.
Yeah.
[00:51:19] Speaker B: Because that stuff filters down to farmers, right?
[00:51:22] Speaker A: Well, it does. And it's. They're teaching the next generation. Yeah, right. If there's, you know, let's say there's 50 young students in there and they've just been taught about spray drones, what are they? I mean, are they going to go buy an airplane or are they going to buy.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: Or are they going to buy an F250 with a truck bed system and a single agricultural drone?
[00:51:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean it's just, you know, we bring that up because that video that that pilot airplane pilot girl was talking about, she was trying to say that there's going to be more fly by night companies because it's easier to buy the equipment and be a fly by night company. I didn't even think of that.
[00:52:08] Speaker B: I mean it is easier to buy a drone than it is to buy and operate an airplane. Yeah, like there's no doubt about that.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: But did you think of that? That they'll be just.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: No, I didn't really think about that.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: Didn't even think of that. But that's what they're thinking about. They're like, oh, it's so cheap to buy this stuff. We're just gonna have any John Henry coming in and whacking our acres out and then leaving and he did a crappy job and now he's.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: It's funny, they talk about the drone guys have so little commitment to an area that they spray some and then they go to the next place. Yeah, like that's funny to hear airplane Guys saying that.
Interesting. Everybody has their own perspective. What I would like to do is I'd like to get an actual spray pilot on the podcast.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: I would love to have a spray pilot, an airplane pilot on the podcast.
[00:52:54] Speaker B: And hear their perspective. Maybe there's things, you know. Yeah, just hear their perspective and have a conversation again.
[00:53:00] Speaker A: Kevin. I, I think it'll be just like in any other industry. You will have some that like it, are thinking of adopting it and agree with it. And then you'll have somebody that's just, you know, kind of ticked off about it and they'll be just negative in, in any way that you say something like, well, your boom length isn't, you know, 75 of your wingspan. Okay. Yeah, but that rule and those things that were written were done long before, you know, this technology that is, in my opinion, better.
Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like, you'll, you'll have different sides. You bring one airplane pilot in that is like, nope, we're adopting it. I am phasing out, you know, I'm buying less airplanes or I'm doing less acres with my airplanes because I, my insurance is cheaper, my fuel cost is less, everything is less. So that's why I'm adopting the, the drones. And then you'll have this other airplane guy over here, just like an old farmer that says, dude, it works good, but I'm just not going to use it. Why not? I don't know. I just don't want to use it. It's technology.
And you'll have an airplane guy that's be like that. They won't tell you. Yeah, I kind of like that. It can fly at night underneath the high tension power lines and in the small fields and the big fields. But he's not going to tell you that. He's just going to tell you, nope, don't want it. It's new technology. Don't want it. I think it's bad. Like, yeah, you'll have those all kinds. Yeah, it'll be, it'll be interesting to see where this will be in 10 years. And I, I guarantee you we, we will all be surprised because when I, when I see my very first spray rc, it was not a drone. Well, it would have been a drone, but it was a little helicopter. It was a spray helicopter. I think it was a one and a half gallon tank or a two gallon tank.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: Remote control.
[00:54:53] Speaker A: A remote control helicopter and was spraying vineyards in California.
[00:54:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:59] Speaker A: And I was like, there's no way. This is so dumb. They're wasting their time.
[00:55:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:55:04] Speaker A: Look where we're at in 10 years. We're talking about a drone that'll take, you know, 26 gallons. Who knows if it's going to work the T100 right. But we're talking from a one and a half gallon tank to 26 gallon tank that flies faster, does all these things. Where will we be in 10 years? Only time will tell.
[00:55:22] Speaker B: Should be good. Can't wait for it for it. Can't wait for the part 108 now. Can't wait for next year. Be exciting to see how this comes out.
[00:55:28] Speaker A: Yep. Anybody listening? If you are a helicopter pilot or a airplane pilot and you want to join us on the podcast and just have an open conversation, get a hold of us. New way ag.com you can call our team or email. Do you want them to email you?
[00:55:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Email me
[email protected] There you go.
[00:55:46] Speaker A: All righty. Thanks for listening guys. We'll catch you guys on the next one.
