Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, guys, welcome back to the drone on show. Today we're going to do a little bit different one. We're. We are in the service center of New Way Ag and also the warehouse where we have drones, batteries, accessories. If you're watching, you're going to see guys walk behind us. You're going to see guys working on drones. Yeah. So we're just going to roll with it. We're going to talk to Charles about spraying. You just got into this.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: Just got into it this year?
[00:00:25] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: When did you start exactly?
[00:00:28] Speaker B: I picked the drones up here in March, I think.
[00:00:30] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:00:31] Speaker B: And, yeah, it was early.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: Did you.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Did you do mid April?
[00:00:35] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: Okay, so we got two and three.
[00:00:39] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: All right. I had a little microphone issue there, but we'll just hop right into it. So you got your drones in the spring. It's a little unfortunate, actually. Let's just address why you're here.
[00:00:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: You had a couple drones go down.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: I had a couple drones go down yesterday.
[00:00:52] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Within.
[00:00:54] Speaker B: Within an hour.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: Oh, that's so bad.
[00:00:56] Speaker C: It's.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: It's just like I'm over here thinking, like, what. What happened that. That caused it to go down because you have like 6,000 acres on the drones. No problems before.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Zero problems with them. That's no indication. No, nothing.
[00:01:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: So obviously we're going to upload those flight logs and see. See what type of data comes back on that might be batteries.
[00:01:14] Speaker C: It.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: Who knows really what it was, but it's a little unfortunate. That's why he's here at New Way right now. We're repairing his one drone. It looks like it's almost ready to go. And then the second one might take a little bit more.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: Yeah, she's a little twisted up.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Were you gonna. Is it here?
[00:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's over there up against the.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Sit next to the new one over there.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Okay. You're not waiting for that one?
[00:01:36] Speaker B: No.
[00:01:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: No.
[00:01:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: Gotta go back.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: You still have acres done?
[00:01:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Okay. How many more acres do you have to get the season wrapped up?
[00:01:44] Speaker B: I don't have anything hard on the books, but I've got guys in my area that grow a lot of vegetables and stuff like that, and they are interested in the technology. You know, done a bunch of work for them, and I think they like what they see. So.
[00:01:57] Speaker A: Okay, you. You've been into farming for a long time.
Okay, so you grew up in farming, Grew up on a farm or just worked for a farm?
[00:02:06] Speaker B: Both, kind of.
[00:02:06] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Family had a farm. And and things didn't pan out there, so. And then I worked, I don't know, a couple other big farms in my area.
[00:02:14] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. Yep.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: So you. You kind of had it in. I. I've talked about it on the podcast before. If a guy is getting into this business, the biggest challenge that they have if they don't have those connections is making the connection and getting people to trust them to fly over their.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: No doubt.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: So you had that in.
[00:02:33] Speaker C: So, yeah.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: First. First season, you had thousands of acres. Well, you had said you could have probably done even more than what you have currently.
[00:02:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: You did it all by yourself, you were telling me earlier.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I had a, you know, a helper here and there, but yeah, 99% of what I've done by myself.
[00:02:47] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: And your as applied, they're showing on your DJI app as. How many acres?
[00:02:52] Speaker B: 6,000.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: 6,000 acres. With two drones.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: With two drones.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: That's impressive.
What was. What was most of that crop?
[00:03:00] Speaker B: I would say most of it has been onions, actually.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: That's been between onions and corn, I guess.
[00:03:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: What gets sprayed on onions?
[00:03:11] Speaker C: Spray.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: So we were super wet this spring, and there's a small window to get a herbicide put on them before the onions are too big. And the herbicide will hurt the onions.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: And we got super wet, so.
[00:03:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:25] Speaker A: Okay. So you doing herbicide with the drones. I've been really cautious doing herbicide with my drones just because you see where we're at. I mean, we got lawns, we got stuff that I don't want to touch. Are you dealing with that up there or you got bigger, wide open fields that are, you know, these onions are.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: Growing in where the onions are. There's not much around it.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: It's called the. The Albumucklands. It's like, I don't know, it's 3, 000 acres of land that was cleared 100 years ago. Very rich organic matter. And there's nothing down there but. But the fields.
[00:03:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Yep.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: It's like when I went to the drone convention. That's one thing. Just talking to applicators like yourself.
[00:04:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: Is like, I didn't realize how many different things. Things are out there that get sprayed.
[00:04:07] Speaker C: Right.
[00:04:07] Speaker A: And different areas.
Like the new AG trailer. I. I brag on how it's the best drone spray trailer out there. And it is. But it can't work for the guy that is in Florida that needs to go way back in to do a pasture spray. And so to hear that you're doing onions and it's huge fields. I never even thought about that. But I mean, geez, Onions that are used for a lot of different things. So.
[00:04:30] Speaker C: Somebody else.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: Yep, that's right.
[00:04:31] Speaker C: That's.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: That is so cool.
[00:04:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:33] Speaker A: What do they. Are they using airplanes up there to spray at all?
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Not as much as they used to. When it gets wet, you know, they'll bring the airplanes in, but I'm hoping to.
[00:04:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: Keep them out of the area.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: Yeah. You know, do you.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Have you heard anything from farmers that they prefer the drone over the airplanes?
[00:04:50] Speaker B: I haven't yet.
It's pretty new to our area.
[00:04:55] Speaker C: Okay.
Yeah.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: I mean, I'm the only one in. In my.
I guess there's a few other guys in the county, but. But the guys that I've talked to, you know, it's just been this year, maybe a little bit. Last year, they used a. A guy with drones, but.
[00:05:08] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Fairly new.
[00:05:10] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:05:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Obviously flying to the T50s if it's flat. Not needing to follow terrain in. In the mountains or anything like that. Do you have mountains over there?
[00:05:19] Speaker B: No, we're flat.
[00:05:19] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah.
[00:05:20] Speaker A: Is that further east of you or the mountains?
[00:05:24] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yep.
[00:05:25] Speaker A: Interesting.
I know you're still new into this, but if a guy was wanting to get into this, what are some of the first things you would tell them from a connection standpoint? Like, let's just focus on if you wouldn't have had the connections that you had. How does a guy, you know, go out there and try to make those connections? Because I've tried to tell it from my experience is first what I needed to do is I needed to go get experience, actually go cover acres. So when I did talk to the farmer that he could rely on me to get his acres.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: Sure.
For me, I've had experience in the farming industry and obviously know a lot of people in my area, but it's a big, big undertaking, I think if you're. You're new to it, I mean, what do you do? Do you go try to find customers first, or do you buy the equipment first? You know, do you want to make that $100,000 investment not knowing that?
[00:06:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: It is hard.
Yeah. I talk about this with, you know, young entrepreneurs that want to get into it, but trying to. Trying to get customers prior to you ever doing anything, Flying a drone or having the equipment and looking like, you know what you're doing is going to be pretty hard to pick up a customer as well.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it is.
[00:06:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: Yeah. I think that's the biggest chat or probably the number one question we get is how do I get acres? And you know, I, I have to be honest with people. That is the hardest thing that they're going to do is get those acres.
But thankfully for you, you grew up in it.
[00:06:56] Speaker B: I grew up in it, yeah. I think if you're honest with guys, you know, if you're honest with the farmer and, and straight up with them, and I think most, most farms that I know and work with are willing to try something, you know, and you do a good job, work your butt off and. Yeah, you know, I think it's going to come to you, dude.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: I couldn't stress that enough. Work.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: Hard work.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: It's hard work.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: It's hard work.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: I mean, it's fun, right? When things are going good and the drones are flying, it can look easy, but it is hard work. If a guy is not willing to grind and you keep going through the season, they're not gonna kill it. Like a guy like yourself that's out there by himself operating two drones. I don't know how you do it. I'm sure you're already trying to think.
[00:07:38] Speaker C: How am I gonna add that second guy?
[00:07:40] Speaker A: That'll, that'll make things a whole lot easier. Someday.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Someday I hope to add another trailer or two, you know, and maybe blow the thing up.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: I'm sure you will if you're already doing that many acres now. Yeah, it's like anything else. And you were saying earlier, like, if you're set up with your trailer, farmer sees you or that farmer talks to the next guy, 100%, it just starts snowballing. It's a guaranteed effect that this is going to happen.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: So I've lived in the area my whole life and I've talked to farmers this year just because of this. You know, they've heard that I've got drones and I get phone calls and, and you know, I heard you're. You're flying this year. You know, you want, you want to spray some corn for me? And you know, guys that have lived just up the road, I just never had any real reason to talk to.
[00:08:21] Speaker C: Them, you know, so.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy said that you're spraying his corn. You want to come? Do, you know, a few hundred acres for me and we'll see how it works and that stuff like that. So. Yeah, no, it's.
[00:08:31] Speaker C: Huh. That's cool.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: Have you done any night spraying?
[00:08:35] Speaker B: I haven't yet, no.
[00:08:36] Speaker C: Yeah. No.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: So I've been doing a good bit of night spraying with the T60X I prefer that over daytime operations just because it's not nearly as hot.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: 95 degrees.
[00:08:47] Speaker C: Oh yeah.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: It, it is pleasant.
[00:08:49] Speaker B: It's like, sure.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: So there's a few things not as hot.
[00:08:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: And not nearly as many people on the road.
And we did have a little bit of bug issue to start with because they all come to lights. But after, it seems like after about 30 minutes or so.
[00:09:04] Speaker B: Yeah, they figure it out and yeah, they go away.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: I don't, I don't know why. Is it just because the drones are coming maybe now?
[00:09:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:10] Speaker A: But for the most part, dude, I love operating at night and with the T60 actually have a low light camera so everything's black and white. The power lines actually show up better at night than it does in a daytime. Yeah, it's impressive.
[00:09:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:24] Speaker A: So.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: So that'd be the biggest thing that would scare me away is the power lines, you know.
[00:09:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: With that, so are you.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: So you guys have power lines through the, through, through the fields out there as well?
[00:09:34] Speaker B: Everywhere.
[00:09:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:35] Speaker B: You don't realize how many power lines you have until they're, you know, you have to try to fly around them.
[00:09:39] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: It's so crazy. I never noticed it until I became a spray drone pilot. It's like, wait, what the world? Why'd you cut the back corner?
[00:09:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:09:49] Speaker A: But they don't care.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: Or why are they down both sides of the road? You know what I mean?
[00:09:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: Where am I gonna park this thing?
[00:09:55] Speaker C: You know? Yeah.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: Dude, we were doing a job with the T60s where we, we had power lines here and here. Huge trees growing up over like this video will be coming out. It'll, it'll be pretty cool. I had to take off and kind of slide out, find a little hole to go up.
[00:10:09] Speaker C: See that?
[00:10:11] Speaker B: I don't know man. It just scares the heck out of me.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: It's like anything else. You'll, you'll get comfortable, you'll get, you'll get there.
[00:10:17] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: So average fields up there, we're all over, you know.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: You know, I've sprayed 200 acre fields and I sprayed two acre fields.
[00:10:25] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:10:26] Speaker B: You know, a lot of trees, a lot of hydro. So it's, that's challenging is, is getting signal, keeping signal, you know, trying to get around that corner where you don't have line of sight with it.
[00:10:36] Speaker A: So do you have any relays or anything like that?
[00:10:40] Speaker B: Relays on a pole.
[00:10:41] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: You know, but you know, that is only get you so far.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:44] Speaker B: If I can make any money this year, maybe I'll Go buy a. Buy a drone. And, you know, there you go as a repeater.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Well, I would say if a guy would do the numbers and know how many acres you've done. Yeah, you're going to do all right. It's exciting to hear. Hear somebody that got into it first year and is doing that well with it. It's like there's not even a doubt in my mind that you will be running two to three trailers.
[00:11:07] Speaker C: I hope so, because. So. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: I think that's what I want anyways. You know, there's days where I like just being up on the trailer by myself and, you know.
[00:11:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: There's definitely times when it's like you.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Don'T have to answer. You don't have to rely on anybody else. You know, that's a struggle, too.
[00:11:21] Speaker C: But. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:11:23] Speaker A: So you're spraying onions, corn, beans.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Yeah, so I've sprayed onions, corn, carrots, cabbage, potatoes.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: Wow.
Cabbage.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of cabbage. Growing our area, too.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: What are you spraying there?
[00:11:37] Speaker B: I sprayed some insecticide on it.
[00:11:39] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Because aren't there. I know. My wife is a gardener and she's. I think there's like little white butterflies or something.
[00:11:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: And then their livery eats it.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: So you would have been trying to spray for those.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: That's right. Yeah.
[00:11:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:11:53] Speaker A: I'm not a gardener, so I. I was just like, yeah, she hates the little white butterflies.
[00:11:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: So another challenge is. Is so I got the drones home the day I got them home, and of course, I had to fly them.
[00:12:05] Speaker C: Yeah. You know. Yeah.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: And I live on a back country road, and. But my neighbors hayfield next to my house, so I took them up, screwing around with them.
Woman drives by, take a pic, takes a picture, sends it to the local news service on. On Facebook, and the whole town. So, you know, killing bees, poisoning people, I think that's the biggest misconception of what we're doing. You know, everybody thinks that we're poisoning people and killing bees because we're using all these chemicals and, you know, these pesticides, and it just drives me crazy, you know?
[00:12:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Actually, now that you bring that up, it reminds me, we were in Kentucky and a farmer had mentioned that because we were operating at night. And why is it that people always go to the negative right away? Because he. He had mentioned that there was a post on Facebook. Okay. So they can't get all their stuff done in the daytime. Now they're killing us at night, too. It's like, what the world. It's for a nighttime operation, for Me, I was like, I think it's safer for every.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: No at all people.
[00:13:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: And. And bees or whatever.
[00:13:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: So you run it the new way act trailer.
[00:13:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: How do you like it? Love it.
[00:13:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:14] Speaker A: What would you change on it?
[00:13:15] Speaker B: The only thing I'm probably going to change on is I'm probably going to drop it down about a foot. So some of the back roads and stuff. Power lines.
Drop.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: Drop the whole deck or drop the railing?
[00:13:26] Speaker B: Probably going to drop the whole deck a foot.
[00:13:28] Speaker C: No way. Yep. Okay.
[00:13:30] Speaker B: Just. Just for the pure fact of, you know, it's what, 13, 4, I think to the top of the rail.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: 13 2.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: 1313 too.
[00:13:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: Power lines and.
[00:13:40] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Low trees and all these side roads.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: What about instead of lowering the whole deck, we just have a foldable railing?
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Well, yeah, because if that might be better.
[00:13:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: If you just lay the railing down, is the deck your problem or is the rail.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: No, it's the railing for sure.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: So that would be an easy fix. We just. We have a foldable railing. We actually have a trailer built already.
[00:14:03] Speaker C: Really?
[00:14:03] Speaker A: That has foldable.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: Really?
[00:14:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: To try to move that whole deck down, you'd have to cut the. Cut the whole legs and everything off of it.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: I'm a welder too, so.
[00:14:13] Speaker A: So it's not a big deal for you.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: No, but that is a good idea. The cinch though is like, you know.
[00:14:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: So originally I did build the deck where it was lower, but when you stood into the trailer, it almost felt crunchy. But I also want it to be high on the deck. So when I'm standing there, I have them.
[00:14:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: And everybody says, God, that thing is enormous, you know, why you so big? I'm like, you don't know what it's like.
[00:14:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: You know, it's really nice to be up that high and to see what you're doing, you know.
[00:14:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: So the folding folding railing is definitely something we're working on that. I. I'm hoping that all the new way trailers going forward will have that, but.
[00:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah, but no, other than that. I mean, it's.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: What about, what about the plumbing?
Guys? Guys say it's a bit confusing of how the plumbing works.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: See, I've been around this stuff my whole life.
[00:15:01] Speaker C: Okay. You know. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: I usually just tell guys, just take, Take five minutes.
[00:15:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: Just.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: Just look at it.
[00:15:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: Take five minutes and look. Yeah.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: This go. Yeah, it's pretty simple for me.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Open this handle. It goes there. Close this handle.
[00:15:14] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: The only thing I did was I cracked the manifold and I had A stainless steel one built.
[00:15:20] Speaker C: Okay. You know.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: How'd you crack that?
[00:15:22] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know if I, I pulled the valve too much to get pressure up top, you know and it just.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: Just a little split because I think that's all schedule 40. Yeah, I think.
[00:15:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:15:33] Speaker A: But that's, that's a valid point too. I was looking at maybe building that manifold out of a different product. Yeah, stainless steel would be a good idea. We actually have a whole nother system that we're working on we can't talk about. But yeah, that, that would be a good idea maybe to do that. The thousand gallons. Do you feel like a thousand gallons is enough?
[00:15:53] Speaker B: It is for me. It is.
[00:15:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: For sure.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: One guy, I just. Dude, you, your, your batteries.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you mean, you know, it's non stop.
[00:16:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:03] Speaker B: The only time where I think it's. It's nice to have somebody is when you got to mix another batch.
[00:16:08] Speaker C: Yeah. You know. Oh.
[00:16:09] Speaker A: So are you, are you actually using 170 gallon? It's 175 all the time.
[00:16:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Okay, so you're not really hot loading in.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: No, I got, I'm using so many different mixes with a lot of this stuff that it's much easier for me just to manage. Yeah, the 175 for you know, cleaning out.
[00:16:24] Speaker A: And the other thing is, is once you know how to mix, it's actually not that hard. And it's fast with that 2 inch pump. I mean transfer water over. No big deal. Yeah, because I've had guys tell me that too. It's like you mix so many different times. But honestly, dude, we were running a T60X and I had of course another pilot with me. When we ran out, I was able to go down get mixed up within two minutes.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: I don't know if I should say this, but that's what I can usually get. Get another mix mixed up when two drones are in the air.
[00:16:55] Speaker C: Wow. Yeah.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: That is impressive.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: Both remotes and set them on the stairs so I can just monitor them from there.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: And that is impressive.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: It doesn't always work out. Sometimes I gotta hurry up and land on me and.
[00:17:05] Speaker C: Oh.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: But yeah, so cool.
[00:17:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: So what type of goals do you have for your new way rig or the, the just the whole business. Do you have like an acres goal?
[00:17:15] Speaker C: Do you have a.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: So I, I actually set an acre goal at 5, 000 acres because I just didn't know. Well, you smoked it.
[00:17:21] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: And you know, I've got acres of spray when I get Home, too. And I. I think it's going to carry into the fall quite a bit with some of these vegetable guys too, so.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: Good for you, dude.
[00:17:32] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: Are there pumpkins up there?
[00:17:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: Is that something that would get sprayed this time of the year or is that already.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. They're spraying them this time of the year.
[00:17:41] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Yeah, we. We just don't have specialty crops like that around here. Obviously it's because of your dirt or what.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so.
[00:17:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: Climb. You know, we usually we're right in between Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, so we'll get. Normally we're dry out there this time, this right now, but normally we get sufficient amount of rainfall and, you know, we got pretty good dirt.
[00:18:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah. That's interesting. I. I should come up and run with you just. Just to.
[00:18:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: I mean, people get tired of seeing corn, they get tired of seeing pastures. It's like, let's go do some onions or let's go do some cabbage.
[00:18:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:15] Speaker A: Let me know when you have a decent job coming up where it is. Something like that.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: And we'll see if we can run up there. May cruise the airplane up there.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: Probably teach me how to do something. So.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you cover 6, 000 acres. I don't. I don't know what I mean. I'm sure you've figured out some things. Things on your own already.
[00:18:34] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:18:35] Speaker A: Like where you could run efficiently here or there.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: For sure. For sure.
[00:18:39] Speaker C: Y.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: Nice. Are you a deer hunter?
[00:18:41] Speaker C: Oh, I love it. Yep. Oh, yeah.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: Do you have any thermal drones up there?
[00:18:45] Speaker C: No, no. There's.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: Let's talk.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Well, as everybody says, what are you going to do in the off season? I'm like, well, there is this. This thing that, you know, maybe during hunting season I can pick up a few.
[00:18:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:57] Speaker A: With the. The M14 now, the cost of getting in, it's even less than what it was.
[00:19:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: Just a year ago. It's pretty crazy. And New York's people don't know this, but there's some good deer up there.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Some good deer up there.
[00:19:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: Do you do archery hunting or.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: I used to, but, you know, working on a farm, I didn't have a ton of time that time of the year to archery hunt, but maybe I get back into it.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: Do you come across farms that have a lot of, like, deer damage?
[00:19:26] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: It's a real problem around us.
[00:19:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Do down here, I think they get like, crop damage permits. Do guys do that?
[00:19:34] Speaker B: Do it up there too?
[00:19:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:35] Speaker B: Nuisance. Permits, they call them.
[00:19:37] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: Some guys like that, others don't.
[00:19:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: Guys that are trophy hunting, they hate that, so. But I get it. I mean, these farmers put these crops out. It's a cash crop, and if it gets damaged, it's a problem. It is a problem.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: It's a problem.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: What about COVID crop? Do you guys do cover crop up there?
[00:19:56] Speaker C: Yeah, so.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: So I actually just got a call the other day about a guy wants me to do 1,000 acres of COVID crop for him.
[00:20:02] Speaker C: Oh, nice. Yeah.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: But I don't know. I've only got one spreader box right.
[00:20:05] Speaker A: Now, and that's gonna be. You know, we're working on a system to try to make granule applications easier and efficient because it's just that there hasn't been a good way to do that with the drones. I think the drones are totally capable of doing it.
[00:20:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: You guys look at it like, well, I can't do fertilizer at 300 pounds to the acre.
[00:20:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: That's maybe a little heavy, but right. There's. There's seed jobs that we can. And the thing with doing granule applications, often times it gets the load off faster.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: And you can do three loads, like in and out with one battery quicker. Yeah, with one battery. So I do think once we get that the dry system figured out.
[00:20:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Guys will be able to run efficiently and then we'll see a whole. Whole nother market open up.
[00:20:54] Speaker B: No doubt.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: Just like, you know, obviously, spring to start with.
[00:20:58] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:20:58] Speaker A: So, yeah. Here in Ohio, the USDA offers a certain program to farmers. Would that be the same up there?
[00:21:05] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: I got the same programs up on.
[00:21:07] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:21:08] Speaker A: I actually did a little bit of COVID crop down the road already.
Cereal, rye grass.
[00:21:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: Guy was concerned about if the product would get down through the corn. Yeah, totally. Got to the ground.
[00:21:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: But there were a couple seeds that got stuck in the leaves of the corn. But then literally, like a week and a half later, he sent me a picture of it already growing really inside in there.
[00:21:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: So cover crop could be something for you as well that might come up.
[00:21:33] Speaker B: Carry into the fall a little bit longer and.
[00:21:35] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:36] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:21:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Honestly, I think the sky's the limit for these things, you know.
[00:21:41] Speaker C: I don't know. Yeah.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: And just they're getting bigger and faster and, you know, I'm pretty excited for them. I think it's the future of.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: Oh, for sure.
[00:21:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: I mean, you know, guys try to say that, no, it's not going to do it, but, I mean, Come on. Look where it's gone in 10 years.
[00:21:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: So I'm spraying these vegetables, and, you know, guys using ground rigs, they're driving down that road track every week. You know, well, that. That product, the onion stuff, the cabbage, the potatoes, whatever it is, grows every week.
[00:22:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: So the. Every week that is getting bigger, and the more and more you're running over every week, you know, tell these guys, you know, I come. Come in, and I'm there, gone. You don't even know if I've been there or not.
[00:22:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: You know, so we'll get into the whole compaction thing and all that with these.
[00:22:29] Speaker C: But.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I think that. I think there's a lot of value to them.
[00:22:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: You know, I think a lot of guys up around our area are starting to see it.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: So how the. The state of New York. Are there specific rules?
Are they? I think New York's pretty strict on, like, pesticides and stuff.
[00:22:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it's New York.
[00:22:49] Speaker A: It feels like whatever happens in the city goes through the whole state.
[00:22:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:54] Speaker A: And it's like the city controls the whole state.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: I wish they could divide us, figure.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: Out how to divide. Yeah, yeah.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Just order that thing out.
[00:23:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: That's interesting.
All righty. Well, I don't have anything else other. Thanks for being on. I appreciate it.
[00:23:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: Thanks for having me.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: All righty.
