Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: All righty, guys. We're just hopping right into it. Talking with newt. Cattle farmer and also spray drone applicator. Welcome to the show.
[00:00:08] Speaker B: Glad to be here.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: We are out in your field chilling right next to your cattle. How many cattle you got?
[00:00:13] Speaker B: I've got 150 mama cows that are producing a baby every year.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: Wow. Not. Not all on this range.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: No. I've got three different places that we put. Have them.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: And you. You use horses to round these things up?
[00:00:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: To aid. I should say to aid in getting them.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Feed works really good.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: That's a good point. I didn't think of that.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: Kind of like fishing. It's easier to feed them than pull them.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: Okay. I'm not a fisherman. Wouldn't have thought of that, but that's probably very accurate. So you got into spray drones. You also have conventional application business, right?
[00:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I was an applicator before. Yeah.
[00:00:48] Speaker A: Was it in your family or were you like.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: No, no, we're all. I've always been in the agriculture industry and just branched out. I was doing construction and. And wanted to get more in the agriculture and started with a. One big. A spreader truck and ended up with more of them.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: And so you started with a spreader and then went to a spray rig.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Or do they convert? I don't.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know, you get customers and then you have to service your customers. And if you're spreading fertilizer for one, you're going to need. They're going to want you to spread some herbicide, you know, if you are going to continue to be a applicator for them.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: You know, you spread some fertilizer and then you spread herbicide and. And that kind of completes the. The applicator role for the.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: How long have you been doing that?
[00:01:36] Speaker B: Eight to ten years now.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: And what made you decide to buy a complete new a rig and get into the. The spray drones?
[00:01:46] Speaker B: To secure my customer base.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: Okay. Were you losing it to other.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Like I was going to.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: Well, one typical application went.
Yeah, like corn. Corn. After it had gotten up so high that it wouldn't stand back up after we ran it over with the ground rig.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And you. You just seen. That's where it's going.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Well, one of my customers had a drone person come in and spray.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Oh, okay. All right. I wondered. I was like, there's got to be more here.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: Remember I called you, I said, hey, how fast can I get a rig?
[00:02:18] Speaker A: Now that you bring that up. I do remember that phone call. I Was like, this is what you're gonna need. You said, sign me up.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: Right.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: Got the whole rig ready for you and did. You're one of the. One of the few guys that just like took the advice, listened to what I said. You just said do the whole thing. Now after you're running it for a while, will you make changes to it?
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll make. We did make some changes pretty quick.
Not big changes, but some things that we.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: On the plumbing system mostly.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: Mainly on the plumbing system, yeah. And we would like to add an induction.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: I've kind of come to realize that if somebody has already been in the spray business, that's the first thing that they try to figure out is how to set up the plumbing system to how they have run it with their ground rigs. A guy I'm specifically thinking of is in Kansas. He has two or three ground rigs and his biggest thing was like transferring chemicals from one unit to the next.
And it's just something that we don't think about it because we don't have ground rigs. We set the trailer up specifically just to run drones. But when you had mentioned, you know, about a 2 inch dump, we actually have that on our trailer now.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: Right.
[00:03:33] Speaker A: We didn't have it on yours, but we're always wanting to improve it. But at some point, you know, when I designed it, it was about giving it a base, a good base. And then people can add on it if they want to because let's be honest, you can't build one trailer and satisfy everybody.
[00:03:52] Speaker B: Not at all.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: It's just not going to work.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: Yeah. You just got to start with a good layout at the beginning to where you can alter it easily.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So how many acres did you spray your first season with drones?
[00:04:04] Speaker B: I mean, it's hard to say, but at least 10,000.
[00:04:07] Speaker A: Geez, that covered the bills.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know, everything. It's all about what's in the black at the end of the year. You know, you can gross a million or a billion, but if it costs you that much to do it, it doesn't matter. But I mean, application business is not a very lucrative business. We tend to do 5 to 8% a year on. On profit margin.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: Across the board, you're saying? Across the board.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: And you got some big equipment down here.
[00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: Ground rates?
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Yeah, we. We do. In the millions. Gross.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Do you think if you'd be an air. Obviously this is not for the area you're in, but if you were just to do aerial application, you'd probably have to travel.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
[00:04:48] Speaker A: From where. Where you're at here. Do you think that the type of run in that you have done. Could you pay your rig off in one year if you were to have more corn fields?
[00:05:02] Speaker B: I don't think so.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: You don't think so?
[00:05:03] Speaker B: No, no. I mean if you really. I mean because there's so many hidden costs. I mean, you know, you've got your truck. You have to think about your truck.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:11] Speaker B: Your truck's almost as much as your rigs.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: If you get a really good one.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And it. You don't do anything without that.
[00:05:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:20] Speaker B: So. And you know, you have to pay for labor. You can't. Your. Your labor is not free.
[00:05:24] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: And insurances all you got to have your business, insurance, liability.
You gotta have your insurance on your drones.
[00:05:31] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:05:32] Speaker B: And your trailer, which is quite a bit.
And your truck, all that stuff, gas. I mean which it's not near as much input as like say a big machine. When breakdowns happen.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: That's one good thing I like about the drones.
You can order a part and the parts are relatively cheap compared to a big machine.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: You know, readily available for the 60s were kind of not there at first, but they've gotten. The parts have come. Come around.
[00:06:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: You know you're. You've got a bunch more inventory on that now. But I would say, you know, if a man. And it all depends about the person who's running. Right. You know, the guy who's. Whose boots on the ground working the machine. The two guys, I guess. And if. How hard they want it.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the biggest thing. Like I tell guys that watch the videos because I did. I ran hard. I did 11,000 acres in 24 days my very first season I ever done and I made $132,000 of actual revenue. My cost wasn't that high. I had labor, but.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: Right. Well. And you did that amount of ground in.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: A month.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: I did that amount of ground in 12 months. You know.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: Valid point.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: You know, and.
[00:06:49] Speaker A: And it's just because down where you're at, there's not that many agricultural acres.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I mean the vat, the vast acres. There's not there.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: You know. Yeah. You get some good sized fields, but we're not out west, you know, where. Where you have a mile long run and turn around and come a mile back. Or there's no way I could even get to 11,000 acres in 24 days.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just not around.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Right, right.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: But if you Say, say you be like that's your model. You were gonna travel, go to the Midwest, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois. Running how you were running when you were busy down here, you could probably get those acres covered.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you'd be tired.
[00:07:33] Speaker A: That that's where I was getting is if the acres are there, the machines are capable.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
What was the biggest challenge of learning the drone system?
[00:07:45] Speaker B: It's a good question. I haven't really thought about the biggest challenge. I mean, I'm pretty technical. You know, I'm not very technical.
[00:07:54] Speaker A: You are a pilot.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: I am a pilot. So I mean that all kind of. I would probably say the regulations, you know, getting, getting, getting. Getting your license, getting your drones legal and getting legal in the state to applicate is one of the biggest challenges because it's right away.
And then after that, then you've got to learn your equipment. You know, the thing about spraying is you can't see the kind of job you're doing while you're doing it. You have to come back two weeks later to see what happened and you can't fix it. You know, so you have to know what your figure out what the machine is doing.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: And that takes experience.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: To learn that part.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: Yeah. You're referring to like the swath. We can't. We can't. I mean we can look and see the drone flying and see that it's a swath, but we don't actually know exactly where the edge.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: How much a two mile an hour wind affects it.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: And not that it affects it negatively, but it affects it.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: And like a border. Your border run with just a little bit of wind, it's going to push your swath a little bit. One the opposite the way the wind's going. And if you're running a fence line and that's your hard line. You know, you need to. I think I seen a video where you talked about this. You've got to bump your borders to accommodate for that. And it's just something you don't. And even if you know it, you can't hardly seem to get yourself to do it until you see.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: What you should have done. And so that's one. And then transitioning to the low gallons per acre lower.
[00:09:33] Speaker A: Speaking of that, because you coming from ground rigs. High volume.
[00:09:38] Speaker B: 20 gallons an acre all day. Yeah.
Yeah. And that's a low per acre.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: Jeez.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: For. For us.
For us. And even I, you know, I believe air aircraft do about five most of the time. Right. Or.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: Or more I wouldn't know. I've been. I've been. I've been told three to five.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I was thinking they're more. Closer to four to six most the time.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: So getting all of your. Getting all your material to stay suspended in the water with that low rate constant. And with that high concentrate of material, I had to back down half of a rate on a urea application because the water couldn't hold it.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: Oh, interesting.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: I was doing. I was trying to do two and a half, three gallons with 10 gallons or 10 pounds of urea in it, so it would just fall out of it.
[00:10:26] Speaker A: So it was just settled too fast.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: Yeah, just. It couldn't dissolve it. There's not enough water for it to dissolve.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:10:31] Speaker B: And then, you know, of course, the consultant, the man that sold it to the customer. So we do it in airplane all day at six gallons, you know. Well, yeah, six gallons. About double of what I would. Yeah, put. So we just went down half to five pounds and it worked.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Did you get as good a result?
[00:10:48] Speaker B: Well, the result they were trying to get was feeding the plant. So, I mean, obviously they had less nitrogen on it, but.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: So ideally, they would have liked to be higher.
[00:10:56] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: But, you know, that wasn't a. That was a. An addition of what they were wanting to do. They were really trying to put a fungicide on and trying to give it a little food at the same time. And that's when I called him, like, hey, listen, we're trying to fix a problem. Right? We're not trying to just feed this, so let's focus on fixing the problem, which was the fungicide.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Where we're at, is this a high disease pressured area on, say, corn?
[00:11:22] Speaker B: I don't know if it's any more than anywhere else. I can't tell you that.
[00:11:26] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Because I've been told, and according to the studies I see, I mean, Illinois seems to be right in the heaviest part. Heaviest part.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: So, yeah, probably. I'd say it's probably average, you know, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. Compared to everywhere else, I don't travel to do it, so.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: Yep. So. But if your corn catches something down there, down here, would it be Southern rust or who knows what it is?
[00:11:51] Speaker B: I let the consultants tell us what it is and tell us what to spray, and that way I stay out of that.
That's how I stay out of trouble. I don't recommend. I'm not a consultant. I'm an applicator. I get paid to applicate There you go.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: That's a good, good point. I had another guy tell me that that's a helicopter pilot. He's like, I don't sell them the chemical because if it doesn't work, it's not on me. If it doesn't work, they're not going to get you back to spray anyhow.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: And you're not going to sell them product. He's like, I'll do one. You know, either sell them the chemical or apply it. That's a good point. I don't sell chemical either. I mean, I have become more of a. Well, what do you think of this scenario? Like, what should I use here? Just a 2,4D or like a Duracore or something else. And then I will give a. Recommendations. Like, I've seen really good results with Duracore.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: Versus, you know, just generic 2.4D. But yeah, I don't sell anything.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: Well, there's so many different products out there that are the same active ingredient with different percentages.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: And to stay on top of that, you know, it's a whole nother bracket. And of course, every customer asks you what they should spray and I, I give them a consultant.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:04] Speaker B: Number.
[00:13:05] Speaker A: So you, you have a guy locally that.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And I've Several. Several. That way I'm not part of impartial with that guy. And. And they don't think we're in cahoots with it or with. Or him and I are working as a team or nothing. There's. There's three or four different salesmen around and consultants. They're all crop consultants, most of them. So they'll get the recommendations and get prices from them and then they'll have the chemical there. That way I'm not out any money and because, you know, chemical and material is expensive.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: So. And they'll have it there. And I get paid to put it out so much per acre as. Even as possible.
My job description.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Even as possible. Spraying it, you're saying?
[00:13:43] Speaker B: Yeah, spraying, spreading. I mean, even spread, dry spreading, fertilizer. You know, it's just very close. It's never.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: Did you do any dry spreading with your drones?
[00:13:53] Speaker B: No, no, no. I didn't get the.
I didn't get the spreader. To me, I don't know you would it. To me, it would have to be a really, really.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: And again, we're talking regions and areas where, where we're at. It just doesn't make sense.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Right. For me. Yeah. No, I'm putting out. If I'm spreading fertilizer. I mean, £200 light rate per acre.
[00:14:13] Speaker A: £200?
[00:14:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, where's your drone? Pick up £150?
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Well, now, t. 100. 220.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: 220. Right. So you can do an acre and a quarter. Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: So, I mean, me and Landon did some lime at 1500 pounds to the acre.
It was not efficient at all.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: I don't even. I mean, did it even come out?
[00:14:34] Speaker A: We did it. We did. It took a while. It was obviously wet, so, you know, a big rig like yours, a tractor.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: Wouldn'T have went in.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: You couldn't have got it in there, but it did it. I wouldn't want to do it all the time.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: No, I mean. I mean, the ton to 2 tons of lime is what we usually put out per acre, so. So 2,000 to £4,000 per acre. Geez.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Yeah. That would take a while.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: So I think what the dry spreader will mostly be used for is in seed application. Yeah, seed application. So, you know, 20 pounds is a pretty. 20 pounds per acre is a pretty good number. And a lot of rye grass seed and stuff like that. So if you can carry 200 pounds. Well, yeah, man. Then you're doing 10 acres, and your battery probably won't even last that long.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: So that being said, your pastures. Is that something you guys would do is throw seed on here or you just let the grass reseed itself?
[00:15:28] Speaker B: The grass is year round. Yeah. No, it comes back even in the winter. You know, after the winter, it'll come right back out. Yeah, yeah. No, this is. This is. This grass here is. It's sprigged in, and it. It stays here as long as we manage it properly. This field here was planted six years.
[00:15:43] Speaker A: Ago, but you actually put the seeds here.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Hmm.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: That. That ground over there is more natural.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:51] Speaker B: And we. That tall grass, we herbicide a lot to kill.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: I was just gonna ask you that, because I was walking past some of those fields, and I'm like, looks like the cows eat in between some of that tall grass. Why don't they eat that.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: That tender grass? They'd rather eat that tender grass.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: And it's so stemmy. They don't really like it unless it'd be mowed down.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: They still wouldn't eat it.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: They. They would. They would eat it. Yeah. But, you know, you mow it down, and then it's like that again in 45 days, 30 days. So you just have to. There's certain. We. We mow about two times a year. Okay. There's two critical times a year. That we mow in. That way it. The grass gets tender enough for them to eat.
Yeah, but.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: But there's guys that'll pay to have that herbicide treated to try to kill out that specific grass.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you got to keep it whipped back because it just gets so big and so thick.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: That you can't hardly drive across it in a truck. It's so bumpy.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: That's interesting.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: I don't think we have that in Ohio.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: No? No.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: We got molaflow rose bushes. Do you have that here? Multiflora? No. Yeah, we got plenty of invasive stuff back home. This sounds like that grass might be a little invasive.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah. It wasn't here as prevalent 20 years ago, that's for sure. And I'm not sure. I don't remember it being here when I was a little kid. But that's the same. That's the same thing with several different invasive plants somewhere here and aren't so much like those. Those taller greens stuff back there that used to be really, really bad. And it just doesn't seem to be as prevalent anymore.
[00:17:23] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: You know, we've started herbicide more in this county past 10 years too. So maybe that has something to do with it. Maybe the seeds are airborne since it's killing it off. Yep.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: Good deal. So you fly airplanes. What made you want to get into that?
[00:17:36] Speaker B: I love for it, you know, the love of flying.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: And I'm fortunate. It's a write off for me.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: Oh, you use it for crop scouting?
[00:17:44] Speaker B: Absolutely.
Quality control.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: He sounds like Melvin.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: Well, I mean it literally. I mean, it's the best quality control you can have because I can see what everything that happened from there.
I'll send my guy. I mean, look, we were working on a spreader truck in the yard. Now they're finished with it, it's ready to go to the shop or ready to go to work.
And if I had my plane here, I would send Ben to go where that thing's supposed to go and I would just go pick him up in the plane and then I would show him what to do when we left.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: No way. Yeah, you would. Oh, because yeah, the cub can land almost anywhere.
[00:18:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I'm in a farm field that's usually dissed or there's a dirt road or something.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: That is cool.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Now you got to be bush pilot pretty well.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: But if that's. That's the only thing I was. As soon as I got my license, what I was doing is just hopping.
[00:18:34] Speaker A: Around the farmer's fields Yep.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: And then, you know, from the air, you can see your spread pattern. You can see if they missed the spot. You can see.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Yeah. You were showing me videos of some, like, swamp stuff you guys were spraying.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: And you could tell exactly where the drones flew.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Yep. I flew over it and checked it out and that made me, you know, also flying. I was able to see. I wanted to narrow the swath up a little bit on the drone.
Not a whole lot, just a little makes a difference.
What it does is it makes you be able to spray for longer during that day. When you get a little bit of wind, you can narrow up some and you're not going to streak the field. And the thing with the streaking with the drones, it's not the product doesn't get out there.
It's just. It doesn't overlap like it should. It doesn't get as much out there. And so you get really good spots that were covered and stuff that needed a little bit more on it.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: You know, and it's just because it just pushed over 2 to 3 foot from this little light variable wind we're feeling right now.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Yep. Huh.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: So if you narrow up three to four feet, you don't have nothing to.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: Worry about because then you'll have enough to cover you if it blows this.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: Right. Because it's going like this. And even if it moves this way.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: You know, over.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Streaking with drones. It seems like if I don't go on Facebook groups much, but at times guys send it to me.
It's a hot topic with drones. Streaking corn, fungicide, specifically. Did you have any of that that you're aware of?
[00:20:08] Speaker B: I really safetied up all my corn. It's. It's the bread and butter for the year for the drone and first year doing it, you know, I safety up with the. With the width and cut it back and didn't see any problem with it. Okay. You know, but I saved it up pretty good on the.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: So. So you're saying your swath, you took in a good bit, like 28ft or what were you running?
[00:20:30] Speaker B: I was 25, 27.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Just be safe. Yeah.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: No, it's all good because at the.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: End of the day. Yes, it's. And like going back to the beginning of our conversation, I'm not pulling up to a thousand acre field.
[00:20:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: You know, most of time.
And so how much more does that little bit of that four foot get you at the end of that day?
[00:20:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: To have a happy customer or not.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: Yep, yep.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: And in this, in this industry, if you don't have repeat customers, you're not lasting.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: So, I mean, is that extra 200 bucks you made today or 300 bucks you made today because you pushed your swath width worth not getting called back?
[00:21:12] Speaker A: That's a. Dude, that audio is perfect. If somebody's listening and thinking about doing it, that's money. They better take that to the bank. Yeah, dude, it's so valid.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: It's like, which is that with any business, though, right? I mean, most businesses, yeah.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: But there's always talk, and I, I do it in my videos, about how many acres you can get done, you know, if you go maximum forward speed, maximum width. Yeah, that's all good. But if that customer's not calling me back, I did maybe get, you know, 200 acres more done that day. But if not getting called back, it doesn't do me that. That good.
[00:21:47] Speaker B: Yep. And then it puts a bad rap on the machine and all that stuff.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
So 25ft, that's, I think, what are.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: The 60s supposed to go? 32.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: Yeah. 32. Yeah. I think I, I, I run my fungicide usually at 28, but then the.
[00:22:03] Speaker B: Wind, you know, we started at 28. I was doing 30, so I was.
[00:22:08] Speaker A: Doing 30 at first, now that you say. I think actually mine was 30, because I was like, oh, if it's two feet off, maybe that'll give me cushion. Yeah. Anyhow.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah. I think that 30 is more of your actual swath.
Hard swath with no wind.
You can push that to 32, probably. But I still think if you were to do a nitrogen cap, a urea, where, where it would burn the grass.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: You would be able to tell that in the middle, it was lighter.
And so if you go 28, you know, it'd be great.
Get a little bit of wind. 25, you're safe.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: You know, gets up to six, seven, eight mile an hour. You better shut off.
[00:22:52] Speaker A: So you don't spray if it's seven mile an hour.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: I mean, I'd like to say I don't, but most of the time. Not. No.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: No, most of the time. I mean. And it's rarely. Not blowing more than. I mean, not. It's rarely blowing that or more. I mean, I phrase that wrong. It's typically blowing that or more. Once it starts blowing.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: Five to ten mile an hour is just calm. The wind blowing.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: Here it's.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Doesn't take much.
[00:23:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Because if you'd always have to wait till the wind is below 5, I don't know that many things would get.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: Done middle of the night.
[00:23:25] Speaker A: They do ballot.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: We work at night a lot.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: I like working at night.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Ben loves it. So do I. And here's a one. I. My biggest reason why I like working at night. There's a couple of reasons. Biggest reason is, is you're you. You don't have to hunt the machine in the air immediately. You can locate that thing.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: Yep. Because of the lights.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Because light. Yeah. So. So right away, you can just look up, glance, you know where it's at. You're right back doing what you're doing. You got more time to yourself while you're working. During the day, you have to scan and scan, and it's hard to see.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: You know what? I'm going to bring this up because this is a good transition. So the FAA wants us to have a Class 3 medical to do this. Obviously, you know that. But they have now approved basic med. But their one stipulation is you cannot fly at night. If you have that, how dumb is that? You just told me that you can see the machine better at night, but because the FAA doesn't fly these drones, they think that it's more unsafe at night. It's more unsafe at night.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: Well, that leads me right back to. Right to my next point about it. You have way less distractions.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: I agree.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: Your phone's not ringing. You know, people aren't pulling up to you saying, oh, wow, look how cool that thing is.
And you're more focused on your task at hand.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: I totally agree.
[00:24:48] Speaker B: You're not going to sleep. You're not falling. And. And listen, if you're.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: If.
[00:24:52] Speaker B: If you do fall asleep, the drone's just going to come home and wake you up when it gets there, because it's going.
You know what I'm saying? So. And you're not. You're not going to crash because you fall asleep.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: You know?
[00:25:01] Speaker A: Yeah, that is. Dude, I couldn't have said it any better myself, but when I seen that be in the exemptions that were granted, I was like, this is so dumb. Like, because it was.
Maybe a guy's vision wasn't just perfect to get that Class 3, and now.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: He'S had a basic.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: And he can't operate at night.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: Yep. He can't operate at night.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: It's way more visible at night.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. I like that. It's cooler, less people on the road. I can usually park right next to the road, not need to worry about, you know, cars coming through. But night working. I would say though the T60X is the first spray drone that is a good drone to spray at night. Before that, the cameras and the lights were not that good.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: I think the T60 works better at night than it does during the day. I think it sees things better. I'm not sure if that's. Maybe that's just me or men thinking that, but I feel like now any type of haze or fault missed in the air or something, which, you know, you shutting down quick after that anyways, that that kind of messes with the radar, but.
[00:26:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:08] Speaker B: But at night I feel like it sees better. Maybe the air is a little crisper or something.
[00:26:12] Speaker A: I notice that when I'm M plus and menu plus around the field boundary and I'm flying at night and I have the black and white camera on, I can see power lines better than I can in the daytime for sure.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: I guarantee it.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: Did you notice that at all?
[00:26:27] Speaker B: I can't say I did. I can't say I was. I've sprayed next to power lines like that at night.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: But I have sprayed under big power lines. One of my catalysts are under. I got six miles of giant power lines and that. It's a. It's a power. I rent. I lease the property from the power plant. Okay. So it's just a long, narrow, six mile long by 200 yards wide.
And so I sprayed that whole thing with the drones underneath power lines.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:27:02] Speaker B: Now they're tall and big, but still it was there.
And, you know, I set the parameters not to go hot. Yeah.
All that kind of stuff.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: That's impressive.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: I was. And then I was. When I went down there, I was kind of worried about would I get any interference.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: With. Between the communication of the drone and the controller and stuff like that. And, you know, no. No issue at all.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: Wow.
Hmm.
And so another type of aerial application at that specific field wouldn't have worked.
[00:27:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:31] Speaker A: Because the helicopter wouldn't get in there. Yeah.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: I mean. I mean, he could have got in there, but I wouldn't want to be with him.
You know what I mean?
And I wouldn't pay him to do it. I feel like I was painting to commit suicide. Yeah.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: That would have been sketchy.
Yeah. Night flying. We did a ton of night flying this year. But like I said, I felt like the T60X was the first spray drone that was capable of doing it safely with the FPV camera doing the black and white image. And obviously the connectivity between the controller and the drone was unbelievable compared to like a T40. You never flew a T40. It was bad.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I guarantee. Yeah.
No, I said two generations before T60. I can only imagine what it was like.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: You did fly some 50s.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: I flew 50s, yeah. I did 5,000. Close to 5,000.
Somewhere between 4 and 5,000 with 50s. Yeah. Yeah. And it's. It's really remarkable how much better the 60s are from the 50s. Yeah, I think. But like I said, I only did. Only had them how long? A month. You let me demo them before I bought the 60s. He, he.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: He really told the people you put 5,000 acres on my 250s?
[00:28:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:45] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:28:49] Speaker A: It's all good. It's all good. Hey, don't. You don't expect for me to do that for you guys.
[00:28:55] Speaker B: Hey, listen, guys, he already had all my money for the 60.
We had to have some kind. It's like, hey, listen, I'm writing you this check, but you got to give me your watch.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: No, that's all good. Yeah.
So, yeah, they carry more, fly faster.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: That's all good, Danny. But the biggest thing for me is the range.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:29:16] Speaker B: The range. How. How far it can go away from you.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:18] Speaker B: Without, I think, what, the 50s? 3,500, 3,800ft?
[00:29:23] Speaker A: Yeah. It depends a lot on your situation, but.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: No, I'm just talking about. But if you had no obstacles, no.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: Restriction, I would never have never been able to have that. I mean, the T5, they'd stop on.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Me all the time.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:29:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. 3, 800ft is how far they'd go.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: The 60 goes 5,800ft.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: So the fit. The 60s go a mile. Can go a mile away from you.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: And spray a mile one direction, turn around and spray a mile back.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Without losing connection.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: Without losing connection.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: I. I had the 60s at max distance. Max distance, 6,300ft. And I was still connected at times. But yeah, if you have flat like this field that we're sitting in, I don't think it'd ever lose connection because.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: It won't go far enough. It won't go far enough away.
[00:30:08] Speaker A: Exactly. It's set to a maximum distance. You can't do it unless you re set your home point and try to keep pushing it that way. But that's not going to work.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: No, I don't think it would still work. Yeah, I think that's the far enough range. As far range from your controller as possible. I guess I didn't really, really realize that it was from your home point.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it's from your home I didn't know that. Yep.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: But you're, you're not moving your home point.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: No, you can, you can actually reset your home point to where the aircraft is. And then it gets sketchy.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
[00:30:37] Speaker A: Because all of a sudden, I tell.
[00:30:40] Speaker B: You what really gets sketchy is when it's low a battery and it's about as far away as it can go.
And then, you know, when it goes to return home, it does a straight line and then you look and there's a big wall of trees that it is now going to come straight across to you at that. When you were spraying, you didn't have to go around them and you're like, oh, well, if it dies now, it's gonna kamikaze bomb into the trees. You start sweating and moving trucks real quick. But.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Yeah, tell me about those stories because that's, that's something that you can't teach. Right? So guys, come to New A. We, we show you the basics and we're just showing you the fundamentals of how the, the system works. But what I can't, you know, coach you through is battery management and weight in your drone. I can tell you know, this type of scenario, if you're at 3,000ft and you got 2 1/2 gallons, you're probably better off trying to get the 2 1/2 gallons off than you are flying back, I can tell you that. But until you experience it, you're not going to understand why that is.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: Yeah, the 20% battery is minimum.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:45] Speaker B: Make sure she's telling you she's got to come home at 20% and try to make it worse. It, even if it has battery, if it's coming back.
See, you want your material payload out and your battery at come at the same thing. So if your battery, if your machine's coming back with, with payload in it, you just need to put less in it. Yeah, you can't stretch it beyond that 20% needs to come home range.
Because at 20% empty coming home, you can come about. You can come your full 5,800, 6,300ft away, and you're going to be really close getting home. If it has any type of material in it, it's not making it.
And I can tell you if you're worried about not making it home, the biggest thing for you to do is find a road or find something to fly it down. So when it, when it does decide it's landing, it's. You're not landing in something.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: Yep, something. I think you and I, as pilots, when we Start flying these drones or for. I'm going to speak for myself, that I took for granted is it was in the back of my brain. That's the option, right? You are always scanning. As a pilot, you are always scanning because you don't know when your engine goes out. You're like, oh, there's a field, there's a road there. I go. I go there. If it shuts off, I did that flying my drones, my agricultural drones. I was always scanning. And so if something would happen, you knew where you're going, I'm bailing. But when I'm teaching a new guy that doesn't have a plane pilot's license, he's not thinking of that. Then a scenario happens. It's just like, you freeze up. Like, I'm talking from experience. They froze up. I'm like, bail. Like, you should have had a plan while traveling there or when you ferried back at some point, just scan your FPV camera and be like, okay, if I were to lose battery, I'm going to go over here and land. But most guys don't do that to start with. But I, you know, I was a pilot. It was just second nature.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: Well, I agree we probably have a little bit more of situational awareness in that situation, but it still took me a couple times putting it down in the corn before I really decided to play it safe.
[00:33:54] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Yeah, like. Like, oh, man, I've got 25% and I've got two gallons in there. Like, let it. Let it start that other run. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just let it start. Because what happens is it. It comes to the end of the run and it's either got to come home or you've got to send it on the next run. And you just hate coming home with payload, and you hate coming home with battery. And you send it, and then it just bites you in the butt, you know, because it gets three quarters away from you and then it's out of battery and it's trying to come all the way home, and you're in the middle of the field and you're. And then you start worrying that you're not going to have enough, and then you're trying to find that road or. And then it goes down and the batteries out and you. You don't even know where it's at. You can't see it in the corner.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: It's. How did you put in the corn?
[00:34:42] Speaker B: A bunch. I don't know.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: You must. You must be.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: A dozen times. Wow, half a dozen times.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: So definitely. I haven't put them in there that much.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Half dozen times.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: See, that's what I was just telling you, Landon. I was telling you earlier. You were like, wouldn't it be nice to just have big, flat fields like this? What we were spraying. I said it'd be boring. I wouldn't have anything to do. And then I said, you just push it more. And that's what you do. You just push it more. Yep. And then I'd be having to haul them out of the corn. How'd you get them out?
[00:35:13] Speaker B: Well, I didn't tear anything up, luckily.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Flew the battery over there with another drone.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: Okay. Just put a rope on her and.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: No, I bungee corded to the top.
[00:35:23] Speaker A: Oh, you did?
[00:35:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: Because I had to find it with the other drone.
[00:35:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: You know, did it take a while? No. I mean, it took me a while to do that. Took me a while to figure out to do that. The first couple times, I would. I would carry the battery out there and try to. And I'd be like, oh, my God, I can't see the. I can't see it. What am I doing? I'm gonna do now? You know when you're up on the trailer, you're like, yeah, it's over there. Yeah. You know what I mean? But then you go to try to find it. You're ten foot from it and have no idea where it's at, and then you got to go over there and break all the corn off so it can take off again.
Yeah.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: Those are stories that people don't usually share. I share it because I think it's. It's a part of the learning experience.
But, yeah, you do start sweating, dude. I remember my first season.
The.
Like, the battery's dying.
I would jump up from my sleep, like, thinking that I'm flying it, and I was like, where's that at?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
[00:36:25] Speaker B: Like, Ben said it the other day, right? He goes, man, I hear that sound of my sleep, you know?
[00:36:28] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:36:29] Speaker B: You will. You will.
Or the.
Yeah. And the.
Just swapping batteries, man. You're gonna. You're gonna bulk up some.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:36:37] Speaker B: You're gonna feel strong. You'll feel good after. After 45 days and doing it every day.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:36:43] Speaker B: Just spray drum.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Yeah, Just a spray drone business, like, some type of wisdom that you could give them.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: H.
The first thing is, is don't jump off in there thinking it's going to be your full time because it's very seasonal unless you have the contacts already lined up to travel.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: Y.
[00:37:05] Speaker B: So you can do it year round. And I don't know if. I don't know if you can do it year round.
But, you know, it's a. It's a. It's not a year round thing, I don't think, unless you're very tropical area, I guess. But the wisdom. Keep them clean. Big time. We went through solenoids from not cleaning our equipment and we would clean them and run them empty. And so now what we're doing is we're cleaning them with a good, you know, chemical tank cleaner. But we're leaving it in them.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: So that way all your rubbers.
[00:37:39] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: All your O rings and everything stay moist. They don't dry out. And what we did learn is don't bungee cord the propellers.
[00:37:47] Speaker A: The propellers, yeah.
[00:37:48] Speaker B: Yeah. We learned that recently.
[00:37:50] Speaker A: Because they get hot and they warp, right? Yeah.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: When just having the constant pressure on them, I think has just as much to do with them as the heat does.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: You know, constant pull on them and keeping your tanks clean.
And battery management, you know, you're not. You're only. You're only gonna be able to go as hard as you have a full charged battery. And be patient when you roll up. I remember when I was first. When I first got them, I was just sitting in such a hurry when I'd first get there.
[00:38:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:21] Speaker B: Trying to get going and do all this stuff. And the most important part about it is a good build on the field.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: And it's hard to really be patient during that process because you want to start spraying.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: You're talking about the boundary.
[00:38:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Building the field is the biggest thing. Well, yeah. So you got the boundary, but you take the time to go mark them obstacles out.
Just because you have obstacle avoidance and terrain following slows you way down. When the machine doesn't know it's there.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:38:53] Speaker B: So the machine runs up to something it didn't know was there. It's like, oh, man, there's something right there and it has to stop. Or.
Or it'll have to stop and adjust. Or it'll stop and tell you and you have to go. But if you. But if it knows it's there, it'll. It'll start. It knows it's there and starts sooner.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: Dude. Valuable. That's good. Yeah, exactly. Slow down. Mark your obstacles. Help the machine out as much as possible.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: Right.
[00:39:20] Speaker A: Take your human eyes scan. Look for things that are going to be in that field.
So the. The machine is working hard enough the way it is. Like we always want to push them to their absolute Max. Right. They have vision sensors now, LIDAR and radar and this like all this stuff. Stuff to try to keep the machine safe. It can fail. If you help it just a little bit, it's going to be that much more efficient.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: Yeah. The job is going to take the time the job's going to take. You have to be patient and do a thorough job.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: Because if you rush it, you get bad results or you put them down in the corn or you wreck them. Oh, we didn't get to the one that I wrecked. Remember? I wrecked your T50 as soon as I got here.
[00:39:58] Speaker A: Tell me.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: So as soon as I pulled in the house, you know, I drove what, 14 hours or whatever and I could. Had to fight. Correct. You know, had to fly it.
[00:40:06] Speaker A: And were you fired up or what?
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I was excited and so I took it off and flew it around and I'm standing behind the, behind the little rail there on the trailer and got the controller sitting on the rail there. And after watching you guys do it, I wanted to do it like you guys did it. And I was landing it at an. I was landing it to the. Facing to the right.
[00:40:30] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:40:31] Speaker B: So therefore, if I wanted it to go my left, I would have to back it up, not go my left or if I wanted it to go to my right, vice versa.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:40:43] Speaker B: But so I'm looking at it and I want it to go to my right and I'm. I'm fresh. Right. I don't know what I'm doing.
And so I stick it to the right and what does it do?
Come straight at me.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Because it's facing to my, to the right. And I stick it to the right because I'm wanting it to go.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, this way.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: But really I needed to make it go the opposite direction. I needed to go forward with the stick because it's facing to the right and I went right with the stick. So it brought it to me and I did the freeze up. But I'm telling, you know, I was landing on the trailer the first spot. So like that it was coming at my, coming at me. So I bailed. You know, I, I just hit the deck, right. And I look up and the propellers are spinning over top of that, over top of the rail and the controllers there and the two antennas are sticking up like this and it's going.
And it finally sucked the controller up in it, up into the propellers and wham. And then, you know, it just exploded. Everything exploded. Parts went everywhere. It. It flung down the side of the trailer and just stuff Everywhere I was, I thought I just destroyed this thing. I thought I destroyed the side of my truck. I, you know, and I just remember like picking myself up off the ground literally and being like, what did I just do? You know, what happened? And amazingly, the only thing that was wrong was blades. And of course the controller was nothing's done, you know, and, but the drone itself was fine, other than I had to get a new set of blades.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: Put those blades on, and put 5, 000 acres on her.
[00:42:24] Speaker B: Yeah, but you know, so the first question everybody asks you that hasn't done anything with them is have you crashed one yet? And so I was like, yeah, immediately.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: Just get it out of the way.
[00:42:35] Speaker B: Yeah, like I've done it now. They're pretty daggum tough really.
I mean, just some blades and I picked up pieces of blades in my yard for two months.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: That's good. Well, I don't have anything else. Thanks for sharing.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I'm humble about it, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah. So, okay, so what I was going to say at the end of that story was when you first get started, land your drones facing away from you. So that way what you want them to do is what you need to do on the stick until you get very competent in or proficient in running them, land, operate them. What you need them to do is what you're going to do with your thumb.
[00:43:20] Speaker A: Yeah, and that's, that's the thing with these drones is you can face them in whatever direction you need them to. So that stick input that you're giving it is exactly as one what you're doing. So if, if the drone is facing you, you push left, it's going to go right.
So just spin it around right. Like a little RC airplane. It doesn't work that way. An RC airplane forward is forward no matter what. So if I'm going away from me, everything's correct. But the moment I turn toward me, everything's the opposite.
But the drone doesn't have to be that way because you can face away and back it up.
So face it away, back it towards you.
[00:44:01] Speaker B: Yeah, if you wanted to come back, you, you come back on the stick.
[00:44:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:44:05] Speaker B: And if you want it to go to the right, you would go right to right. But in my, in the situation me it was facing right and this, I wanted it to go right, I wanted it to go to my right.
And so I'm stick right. Well, it was its right, not my right. And it's right was right towards me.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: There you go. Don't do what Newt did.
[00:44:32] Speaker B: Nope. Take. Take the advice.
Land them facing away from you.
[00:44:37] Speaker A: There you go. All righty. Thanks for being on.
[00:44:40] Speaker B: Yep. Glad to be here. See?
