Spray Drones, Family Business & Personal Testimonies | The DroneOn Show Episode 54

[00:00:00] Speaker A: How's it going, folks? Welcome back to Drone on Show. I'm Mike. [00:00:03] Speaker B: This is Kaden, Jason Dennis. [00:00:06] Speaker A: All right, I'm real curious to get into this episode because you approached me and I find it very intriguing what you asked me. You said, mike, I'd love to be on your podcast and maybe talk more spiritual. Yeah, guys, watch my content or have heard me this morning. I, I spoke and I, I, I mentioned the Lord's name. [00:00:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:00:28] Speaker A: And so I was like, yeah, let's go. So are you interviewing me or am I interviewing you? [00:00:33] Speaker C: I don't care either way. [00:00:35] Speaker A: Sweet. [00:00:35] Speaker C: Yeah. Go back and forth. [00:00:37] Speaker D: Sweet. [00:00:38] Speaker A: So do you. Do you use spray drones? [00:00:40] Speaker D: Is. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Do you have a spray drone business? [00:00:43] Speaker C: Yes, we do. It's between me and my dad and my brother, and we've been doing it for three years now. [00:00:50] Speaker D: How old are you? [00:00:51] Speaker C: I'm 21. [00:00:51] Speaker D: Okay. [00:00:53] Speaker A: All right. [00:00:53] Speaker C: So I was. I was getting licensing while in high school. [00:00:56] Speaker A: Oh, nice. Good for you. Your part 107. Did you do that in high school? Yeah, because some, some. I guess some high schools allow you to get your part 107. [00:01:05] Speaker C: No, no, no, no. Not in my school. I did it on all my own. [00:01:09] Speaker A: Nice. [00:01:09] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:01:10] Speaker A: So why did you get into spray drones? [00:01:12] Speaker C: Honestly, we just. I think actually the reason why we got into spray drones is because we farm, or my dad farms, and we only farm about 800 acres. And at that time, it was around, like, 1000 to 1100. And we actually had the field and another field around our house that actually the rents kept getting raised, and we're told the rents were going to be outrageous, and we had to let it go. And honestly, we were kept thinking, like, you know, you really want to farm the one right around your house? So my, My dad was really kind of, like, really trying to make it work, make it pencil. It just wouldn't. And my mom was like, you should pray about it. And so that night, my dad prayed about it, and it was kind of. He had a dream when he woke up the next day, and it was a bear trap. And later we looked into that, and it means, like, a sense of being trapped. And then after that, we were like, I think that means to let it go, since he prayed about it the night before and kind of went full faith and trusted God that he would provide. And we got the opportunity with the drones that we were looking into for a while, and then just every door opened. It seemed after that awesome. Just an amazing blessing. [00:02:25] Speaker A: That is awesome, dude. When. Yeah, if we're gonna talk spiritual, it's like this whole thing about drone day recovery and new ag. I mention it in the videos, but people, you know, the core of our company has exploded because we have followed what the Lord has told us to do and he has blessed us so much. Like, it's so he has blessed us so fast that a human couldn't do it. Oh, yeah. I'm just totally convinced that we would not be where we're at if we wouldn't have followed what he told us to do. So to hear that. So you're obviously born again. Yep. How old were you when you accepted Christ? [00:03:02] Speaker C: Oh, I don't even remember the exact age. I think 13. Old enough to make the decision, actually. I was baptized when I was a baby and then we kind of switched churches and kind of made my own decision to get re baptized. [00:03:15] Speaker D: Cool. So all right, where are you guys from? [00:03:18] Speaker C: Western Iowa. [00:03:19] Speaker D: Okay. [00:03:20] Speaker C: Yeah. So we got perfect Flats and then Los Hills. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Okay. [00:03:25] Speaker C: So we got the extremes. [00:03:26] Speaker A: What. What drones are you running? [00:03:28] Speaker C: We run. We started with T 30s and then we kind of retired them. And then we run two T50s this past year and two P150 pros. [00:03:37] Speaker A: Okay. [00:03:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:38] Speaker A: How. How the pros hold up for you guys? [00:03:41] Speaker C: Not get a train falling. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:03:43] Speaker C: Yeah, that was. They were Flatland only drones. They were fast and efficient. But. [00:03:47] Speaker A: But did they run every day? Like, you know, I've talked to XAG guys and they told me that the P150 out of the gate had a lot of glitchy type stuff. [00:03:58] Speaker C: Did yours have that signal was an issue. I mean, the signal was very poor. It was. But it was so fully kind of autonomous that it was all right. And you still had the video feed at least. But you would lose signal quite often, sadly. Even though you'd still be visual line of sight and see everything, you just y. [00:04:15] Speaker D: How would you guys boundary your fields using the Xags? [00:04:17] Speaker C: We had a M3M and Pix4D. [00:04:22] Speaker D: Okay. [00:04:22] Speaker C: Yeah. And pre mapped everything. [00:04:24] Speaker A: Wow. So nice. [00:04:26] Speaker C: That was. My brother ran around and Nice. Did that. [00:04:29] Speaker A: That's cool. Brother sitting back here that looks like [00:04:32] Speaker D: he's younger than you. [00:04:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:34] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:04:34] Speaker B: I'm thinking wouldn't that be nice if you know the fields you're going to spray? [00:04:38] Speaker A: Yeah. For us, we don't have that luxury. Oftentimes we're called out and, you know, that's the first time we see the field and that's. [00:04:45] Speaker C: We would pre map while we haven't. Like, me and my dad were spraying our own crews because we have employees too. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:52] Speaker C: So luckily we'd get called out and then. Or told, we can do this, and then we could get it mapped that same day or whenever. Yeah. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Nice. Do you have a spiritual question for me? I feel like you had approached me that you felt like the Lord told you. Let's have this conversation. [00:05:09] Speaker C: How do you balance work with your relationship with Jesus? Because obviously you're a super busy man. I know you stay super humble. Speaking at the conference here, it was like amazing just listening to you and the honesty and the humility, everything. And I just knew you were speaking the truth. But you have so much going on. How do you know? You know, how do you balance it or do you struggle? [00:05:32] Speaker A: I want to be careful how I answer this, because if you're listening and you do what I do doesn't necessarily mean that you should do what I do. I have a really good relationship with the Lord. I've asked myself that before in the past. Like, am I working more than spending time with the Lord? I work a lot, and the Lord has told me that he is okay with it, that I'm working a lot. I would like to spend more time with him. Building. What I'm building is allowing me to spend time with him whenever I want. So when I'm driving down the road, I will be having a conversation. Like literally, I will literally just be talking to the Lord. And if you're not spiritual, you're going to be like, this guy is weird. But I will be in my truck driving and just thanking him for what he's given me and having a out loud conversation. He is not audibly talking to me, but in a visual, I can see him standing and having a conversation with me. For some people, you know, that might not just doesn't make sense. Right. But if I'm having a conversation and. And I can literally see it now that he is next to me in this picture and he kind of like has his hand on my shoulder and it's like, it's good. Like he's. He's just saying that. So when I'm having a conversation with him while I'm driving, it literally is like, I'm talking to you or Jay or Dennis. [00:07:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:07] Speaker A: So do I feel like I work too much? Not necessarily, but we've definitely talked about it. [00:07:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:13] Speaker A: I want to give him as much time as possible. But then this is the part where it's like when my flesh starts to think, mike, are you really spending enough time with the Lord? I don't want to give too much thought. I want to give enough thought to it. But I don't want to give it too much because I don't want it to be the enemy and then try to deceive me and say this. See, you're spending way much, way too much time with your business. Do you even love the Lord? [00:07:43] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:07:44] Speaker A: So it's a fine line of giving the enemy credit or looking to the Lord. So I just. Yeah, I know when it's flesh. And if the enemy is trying to get me to trip up, like. [00:08:00] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:08:00] Speaker A: So I would say a long winded answer, but spiritual warfare. Yeah. [00:08:05] Speaker C: 100. [00:08:05] Speaker A: There it is. Yeah, you said it for me. Spiritual warfare. There's always something that he will try to say. Well, yeah. Did he really mean that? Well, I'm not here to answer to you. I know my father. [00:08:18] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [00:08:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Was there any, like. Sorry, if I'm asking you. No, I like learning from you. But is there. Was there a moment, like, or multiple that, you know, you felt like God pushed you in this direction to make it to where you are now? [00:08:34] Speaker A: Hundred percent the Lord. Like, so the story goes. I was an alcoholic. Literally drinking. The vodka I would get was this tall. I don't know, is that a liter? But I was literally drinking like a half of that thing in one night. [00:08:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:51] Speaker A: And I got to. And I am at that point, I am Christian. I am saved. This might be crazy to some people that are listening to this, but the Lord was not judging me based on what I was doing. I knew I probably shouldn't be doing this, but I also know that the Lord didn't turn away from me while I was doing that. But I felt bad about it. I was like, I'm drinking and I'm putting this front on and people didn't know. Jay, you didn't even know. [00:09:18] Speaker D: I didn't know. I work with him every day. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:20] Speaker D: I mean, I knew he drank. [00:09:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:22] Speaker D: But did not know it was to that extent. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah. So Jay was my business partner in anywhere tree care prior to drone deer, like blowing up. And like, so what. What I did is. And how I got into that was not good. Right. So I injured my back doing trees. I started drinking after we would get home from work. Right. So we worked all day. We come back, the tree trucks get parked, we hang out for a little bit. Maybe we bought a six pack or 12 pack home, make a little baller. And we. We had a little bit, started drinking. I was like, holy moly. Like that. That loosened me up. Like my back doesn't hurt as much. And so it just led to one drink, two drinks, six drinks, 12 pack. I could slam a 12 pack. Then I went to Twisted Tea because that had 5% alcohol. And finally that wasn't enough. Then this is where it gets weird. When I did this, I was like, I'm gonna get vodka. But what, what strong liquor do I buy so people can't smell it? I literally googled that. Yeah, like, that's messed up. Like, I googled what, what vodka can I buy so nobody knows? And so it said it's, it's a clear vodka. And I got the cheap stuff because doggone, I was drinking too much of it. It was Smirnoff and it was, I think it was $22 a bottle. That's when I knew, jog on it, this dude's got a problem. And so not only would I take shots of vodka when I got home from work, I would start doing it in the morning before I went to work because it was just like a way to think that I'm like chilling myself. But like I said, the Lord, he wasn't like, you better quit or you're going to hell. No, it's like, it's like your dad, you are his son. And he would feel so bad if you were doing that, but he would do anything to get you back. [00:11:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Like you're, he. I, I would almost bet he would come to you and talk to you nicely. [00:11:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Rather than talk to you. [00:11:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:19] Speaker A: You know what you're doing? Like, no. That's the Lord, I'm telling you guys. Yeah, like, I knew what I was doing. I knew I shouldn't have been doing that. But right one night, I'm at my lowest point and my buddy Jared called me and he had just gone through something like this and, and he's like, mike, you gotta start doing something that you like doing. And I started praying. I was like, Lord, I literally, I remember myself, I can see myself laying on the living room floor with my, at the time, like one year old Viviana, my wife, was elsewhere and I was on the phone and I was like half drunk, or maybe I was drunk, who knows? And I was like, what in the world am I doing? And right then it was like, okay, I have to quit this. I have to find something that really gets me going. Because up to that point, our company had hit all our goals and it was just kind of stagnant. And we went through an audit. We had to pay an audit bill of $87,000 to the workman's comp. And it was just a lot of stress. And it was like, this is not fun anymore at that point. But I started praying to the Lord. And that's when this whole thing of using a thermal drone to help hunters, you know, recover loss deer came to me. I did not quit drinking right away. I did slow down. And I was, this is bad. Me and my wife got into it. Something about. She was like, well, if it's that easy, then just quit. And I was trying to prove my point. Like, if I put my mind to something, I can do it. And so I quit for two weeks just so I proved my point. See, I can do it if I want to. But then I went right back to it with this messed up. That's messed up. I'm not telling you guys to do this. Don't do this. But then, like, literally in July, when was the last time we had the fireworks? Do you remember that? [00:13:10] Speaker D: I would say it was. [00:13:11] Speaker A: I've been four years. Two. I was sober for four years now. I remember now. So 20. [00:13:18] Speaker D: Yeah. 22. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. So July 4th of 2022 was the last time I had a drink. And I was like, no more. I don't know if I answered your question that long winded. [00:13:31] Speaker C: I think you did. [00:13:31] Speaker A: It kind of sucks. [00:13:33] Speaker C: Yeah. How do you think the Lord's using you now? [00:13:36] Speaker A: Oh, this brings up why we are where we are. I basically, once I said no more drinking, the Lord showed me this vision of drone de recovery, and I was, whatever he said, that's what we're doing. And then it just led into the next thing, and the. That's why we're here. Okay, what was the next question? [00:13:55] Speaker C: How do you think he's using you now? [00:13:57] Speaker A: I don't think that people see this, but the amount of people's lives that have been changed since I've publicly shared my testimony on drone day recovery, and it has 95,000 views of the story that I just told you and the people that have walked through here and the people that have bought thermal drones from me, it has helped change their life financially and also spiritually. Maybe some folks believed. [00:14:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:25] Speaker A: But didn't, like, didn't really, like, do, like, maybe they didn't pray or they didn't go to church. I don't know if people actually go to church from seeing the content, but I definitely have had a lot of people come up to me and say, like, I have more time spending with my family. I got in a new business. I really appreciate you sharing that spiritual testimony I just did in Iowa. I was invited to go to A men's breakfast and share. I think it was like 250 men were there, and I shared my testimony, and it was this. It's like sharing our shortcomings and how we need to lean on the Lord and have him lead our. You know, direct us where we need to go. And so I would say, how am I? That's probably it. Just sharing. Just like we are now having people just start talking, like, out loud to the Lord, like, he actually cares. And so I don't. Outside of that, I can't physically, physically see what he's done for other people. But for me, like, it's been pretty crazy. [00:15:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:33] Speaker C: That's cool. [00:15:34] Speaker A: What do you think, Jay? [00:15:35] Speaker D: I don't know. That's a good interview. Yeah. [00:15:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:40] Speaker D: No good questions. [00:15:41] Speaker A: I love it. Yeah. It's like, when it's good, you know, it's kind of crazy because I thought about this. I've been thinking about this for two months that somebody might want to interview me. Right. Like, there's. We have all these people on the podcast and I love to hear your stories. Right. Like you do spray drones and so cool. And how much have you made and where are you scaling? But there. There has been something coming up that. Yeah, somebody is going to want to know my story deeper, just like yourself. Why do you find it intriguing? [00:16:16] Speaker C: I think I'm really careful on who I surround myself with. Very particular on friends. Not. Not that I'll talk to anybody and love to hear. Hear people's stories and stuff, but I'm very particular on who I really want to take advice from and gain wisdom. And hearing your Testimony on your YouTube channel kind of made me that one. Yeah, I have. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:39] Speaker C: Okay. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Starting to make sense. [00:16:41] Speaker C: Yeah. And kind of. You seem like a good one to take advice from. You built this from the ground up, similar to what I'm doing, and I feel like I can learn from you. [00:16:49] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:16:50] Speaker A: So when you hear it, such point blank, coming from you, seeing you face to face and not through like a YouTube video, it does put pressure on me. [00:16:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Because it's like you're a young guy and I don't know, it's just something that's like, oh, man, like, you're right here. [00:17:07] Speaker B: So I have. I have a question for you. So you kind of felt that calling that, okay, this is. This is what I should do. This drone deer recovery inspires me. Something that motivates you to get out there and somewhere you can put your focus on that will help get away from an addiction. Right. There must have Been times where you doubted that calling during those, like, man, are we doing the right thing? Or what was that experience like? Or. Or was it not really much that [00:17:34] Speaker A: all the time it came up all the time it was like. And honestly, like, we've talked about it. Me and my wife have talked about it in the past. It's like, well, you're spending less time with your wife because you're working so much. Is this really what the Lord wanted you to do? And then there's times when it's really tough, like we can't get product where we need to continue selling product because we've hired in a lot of people. And it's like, I know that the Lord wants us to do these things, but why is it so hard? Like, if this is from the Lord, why is it hard? Well, then it's. To me, it's just like I lean on him more at that time. Hey, we need product. And will we not pray for these things? We 100% have our Monday morning meetings. We will pray. Lord, we're struggling with product. Would you just lead us in the direction that we need to go? Help us make us those connections that these things start flowing again. Because it's not like it's a one time deal for us. It's not like, oh, this is what he said. And it's just, you know, blue skies and roses. So there's definitely been challenges. I question myself at times, but then I just have to lean back. I go back and say, and look, be like, no, this was from the Lord. How can we figure out how to move forward? And the best way I know is put it on him. [00:18:52] Speaker D: And I think that's why there is challenges. So you have to lean on the Lord to come through those challenges. [00:18:58] Speaker B: Do you find yourself looking back now sometimes and saying, oh, man, when I was in that moment, it felt like I didn't know which direction to go or what was happening, or am I on the right track? But looking back, you can see now, like they say hindsight is 20 20, but does it also give you a picture? Like, oh man, I see the way that the Lord has led me from where I was to where I am. And I learned so much from that. Or like you can see more after the fact that actually, yeah, we were totally on the right track and it was just from that challenge we've learned that it's helped you grow. [00:19:37] Speaker A: Yep. So for me, I can definitely say that we can look back and the challenges that we've faced, like leaning on the Lord and Then, then following those steps. And I will say, like, you know, we ask the Lord what he wants us to do. Right. And I want to go and do what the Lord wants us to do. But the Lord also wants what you want. Right. So he wants us to be successful. He doesn't want us struggling. So. But there will be struggles. And so he then wants us to lean on him. I will definitely say that we have had challenges and then went down this decision that I believe this is what the Lord wants us to. And then look back later and like, oh, yeah, totally. It totally worked out going this direction. I don't know that we've had that. Jay, do you know if we had that situation where it was like, okay, we got to go this way or this way, and then we went this way and then figured out, oh, geez, we're on the wrong track, and then we retracted. [00:20:33] Speaker D: I mean, we have. Yeah, I feel like we have, like in the beginning, like with the whole licensed operator thing, we went down that road and it, it just didn't work out. But I don't know. [00:20:43] Speaker A: I don't know that it was buttoned wrong. So for me, I don't feel like that was like a wrong decision. Yeah, like, I feel like it was something that we were trying and we quickly retracted and like, for that, you know, again, this was about being good humans. We gave all that money back. We literally gave $130,000 back to each one of those license operators. And we, me and Kevin, like on the phone, this was prior to you coming on, I was like, we literally might go bankrupt. We have no money. But I was like, it's worth it. It is worth it to give these guys money back and us not make it, rather than it is to pivot how we want to run this company and just keep their money. And so we, we made a decision. We're like, we're giving $100,000 back and we might not make it from here. [00:21:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:29] Speaker D: And you know what? I think all those people appreciate it. And we. The guy that was just sitting here before us or before you. Yeah, he was one of those guys. [00:21:35] Speaker A: And one of those guys. [00:21:37] Speaker D: Really good relationship with that guy. [00:21:38] Speaker A: Yep, yep. [00:21:39] Speaker B: Yeah. It's always worth the short term pain for situations like that. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, it was brutal. But yeah, totally. [00:21:46] Speaker C: Yeah. And I think if there wasn't any challenges, you wouldn't get better. I mean, like, if you, if you pray to be more wise, he's going to give you challenges to overcome. If you pray, if you pray to be Stronger. He's going to give you, you know, more, find more weaknesses in you and how to overcome it and have faith through it all. [00:22:05] Speaker A: I will say I one of my prayers almost every night. And again, I wouldn't have to say it every night because he knows what my prayer is, but is, lord, show you. Show me what you want us to know and what you want us to do. Like, what do you want me to know? And then second is, what do you want me to do about it? [00:22:26] Speaker C: Yeah. So, yeah, and I think that's kind of a misconception with Christianity is the fact that if you give your life to Christ, it's going to be easy. And that is far from the truth, but it's going to be. If you stick with it, it'll be a life worth Living. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Oh, 100%. Yeah, 100%. It's definitely not easy, but there's some power that comes with being a Christian. Like if there's negative things that come up, you have the authority in the name of Jesus to rebuke that stuff. Yeah, that's the way I believe. It takes a little bit of time to get to that point, but if you know what the Lord told us, he said we can do everything he did and more. And so he rebuked demons, he healed the. The sick. He did that stuff. And if we believe in that, we can do the same. So if we're having a bad. Whatever it might be, say you're dealing with pornography or something, like, you can pray and demand that to leave and not tempt you and not do that. Whatever it might be doing to you in the name of Jesus. [00:23:28] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:29] Speaker A: So. Wow, we're getting deep. There's going to be some guys that are going to be. [00:23:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:23:34] Speaker A: I love it, though. I gotta. [00:23:36] Speaker D: I gotta say your dad, obviously, or your mom and dad. [00:23:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker D: Congratulations, like, to them. I hope my kids grow up to be like you. [00:23:45] Speaker C: I appreciate that. And. [00:23:47] Speaker D: Yeah, that's impressive. You're just a young fella and. Yeah, I'm impressed. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:52] Speaker C: Very good family and a very good church and. Yeah. [00:23:56] Speaker A: Any other ones? [00:23:57] Speaker C: Not yet. I'll come up with another one. Just wait. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Dennis had some good ones. [00:24:03] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:03] Speaker B: Yeah. I find it very interesting. And for myself, I mean, it's like there's. There's so many times in my life to where I've had a long life already. [00:24:15] Speaker A: He's 42. [00:24:16] Speaker B: Oh, man. I tell you what, it's funny, but. But I. There's so many times where you're going through something tough or you're like, man, I thought I'd be further ahead in life by this point or whatever, but so many times I've looked back and I'm like, oh, man, if I would not have gone through that or if I would have, you know, if I would have just had skyrockets, financ financial success out of my 20s, man, would I be an arrogant, cocky. [00:24:45] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:24:46] Speaker B: Like, I, I'm like, I need it to be humbled. And I, I probably still need it, like every day. But I tell you what, looking back so many times, I look back and I'm like, oh, that really sucked. But I'm glad it happened. Like, like, I wouldn't be the person I am today if I wouldn't have had that experience. And I really like the value of, I guess going through some of those experiences is like, yeah, it's always good. And you know, it's just sometimes when you're in, it can feel like, God, what is happening. [00:25:20] Speaker A: Honestly, you bring that up and makes me think of my drinking. It's like I would never want to do it again. But, you know, it built me. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It made you who you are today. [00:25:32] Speaker D: Right. [00:25:32] Speaker A: Like, so he's not recommending. No, I'm not recommending to be an alcoholic, but I wouldn't change. Got me to my lowest point that I was in my life, and you know it. Dude, I could have literally died. Like, it was that close. Like, people die from vodka because of alcohol poisoning. There's times that I had so much, I literally don't even remember. It was so weird. And so I'm just thankful that I didn't die. What a shame that would have been. We wouldn't be here right now talking about this. [00:26:07] Speaker C: We'd have a whole audience listening. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Yeah, Jay would probably be cutting trees, probably. [00:26:12] Speaker D: Doggone man. [00:26:13] Speaker A: By yourself? [00:26:14] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:26:16] Speaker C: I think example of that would be I used to do bodybuilding a while back and I was training all the time. And I start to become more cocky, started to think more highly of myself, and I think I ended up breaking my neck in a dirt biking accident. [00:26:33] Speaker D: Oh, wow. [00:26:34] Speaker C: And basically lost all my muscle and everything. And that set me back, but I think it was because I was becoming that way and God didn't want me to be like that in the future. And I think he used that moment to shape me. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Okay. I think it's okay that you look at it that way, but I would look at it slightly different. [00:26:53] Speaker C: I mean, he may not cause that, but. [00:26:54] Speaker A: No, no, no, it's okay that you look at it this way. I would look at it this. I think that the Lord would have still gotten to you in some other way. And the reason I say this is because I don't believe that the Lord ever wants you to suffer. Not even, not even to get you back to Him. He would not want you to break your back or your neck and to just get it back. I think it was a way that the enemy was trying to steal your joy. But I think it's okay that you look at it that way because he used it for good. Yeah, I just. It's so. It's just so hard for me to believe that bad things happen from the Lord. [00:27:36] Speaker C: No, that's very true. I'd misword that. I'm. Yeah, I kind of more meant it like that. I kind of worded that wrong. But that is. Yeah, Lord doesn't want you to suffer. It's. He. But he uses what you have in your life for his good. [00:27:49] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. He uses bad situations. [00:27:51] Speaker C: That would be. Yeah, that would be the best. [00:27:53] Speaker A: He will. He will come up with a good outcome of a bad situation. [00:27:57] Speaker C: Yes. [00:27:58] Speaker D: That's 100% like my little brother. Well, he's 20 now, or 21. He was burnt. 99. 99. 95 of his body, 30 degree burns, almost died. He was in the hospital for about seven months and Horrible situation. Like, God didn't make that happen. [00:28:14] Speaker C: No. [00:28:15] Speaker D: But my point to it is like since that has happened, my mom has helped countless people. Yeah. Like she's learned so much about the whole burn process that she's helped literally hundreds of people, hundreds of little kids that have gotten burnt get their life back. Like my little, my little brother, he's almost 100%. [00:28:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:35] Speaker D: I mean, I'd say he's 100%. Like he can go to work, he can do anything that he wants to do. But yeah, he used a bad situation and brought a lot of good out of it. Yeah. [00:28:44] Speaker A: That was a crazy day. He was diesel fuel in a, in a jug. And you're going to think it's gas. [00:28:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:52] Speaker A: But something about the fumes or something. He put it on a campfire. [00:28:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:56] Speaker A: And it just erupted and just engulfed him in flames. It's like, how in the world does that even. [00:29:02] Speaker D: There was like almost nothing in the, in the jug and he was like shaking and there was not even. I don't even think there's flame there. There was just coal there and he was just shaking it on there. He was nine when he was doing it and somehow it sparked and it actually Went up into the tank and it blew up. And the little bit of diesel that was in the tank went over him [00:29:22] Speaker C: because it kept burning. [00:29:24] Speaker D: All his clothes, everywhere that there was clothing burnt. I mean, it was third degree burns all over his body. The only place it wasn't was his hands, left side of his foot or left side of his face and the bottom of his feet. [00:29:36] Speaker C: Wow. [00:29:37] Speaker D: Crazy thing is. Yeah, we're getting off subject, but crazy thing is, so he was a twin, and if he wouldn't have been the twin, he would have died because he had to. His twin actually ended up doing skin grafting. Like, they took skin off of his twin and put it on him because he did not have enough skin to graft. [00:29:54] Speaker A: It had to be an identical twin. Like, so that's the crazy part. Some. Some twins are not identical. [00:30:00] Speaker D: And that wouldn't have. Yeah, he would not have accept. Like, if I would have tried to do it, his body would have rejected my skin. Had to be an identical DNA for it to accept it. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:10] Speaker D: And I think that was the first time in the US that that's ever been done. [00:30:13] Speaker C: Wow. [00:30:14] Speaker A: You want to. You want to hear the crazy part? Is his twin brother, like, right, We. We talk about. Is it Wayne? No, John. John. He was burnt, but no, Jerry was burnt. Jerry was burnt, John. They had to peel that off of him in surgery. Like, he had to willingly lay down, be like sliced open and put it on his brother. And he had to do that twice. [00:30:38] Speaker D: Yeah, it's like a cheese slicer kind of like. [00:30:40] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:30:41] Speaker D: Just sliced it off. Like, very, very thin, but brutal. And then he did it twice. So the first time he went in and did it, he was like, yeah, I'll do it. You know, it's probably not gonna be that bad. I mean, you don't know what's good, what to expect necessarily, but, I mean, he knew it was gonna help save his brother. But the second time, like, he knew what was coming and it was. It was miserable. Like, he was brutal. Like, he was in a wheelchair for two weeks after the first. Oh, yeah. [00:31:06] Speaker C: Brutal. But then he willingly did it again. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Wow. [00:31:10] Speaker A: That's crazy. That's crazy. [00:31:14] Speaker D: But they had. They had no options. Like, it was. They were literally scalping him every two weeks because that was the only place they could get was the skin off his scalp. So they would scalp him. They would let it go for two weeks because it would regrow and then they would scalp him again. And, you know, they'd, you know, put it here and there and then the rest of it they got from his twin. [00:31:33] Speaker C: Wow. [00:31:34] Speaker B: And here I think I go through rough things. [00:31:37] Speaker A: Jeez, like, [00:31:40] Speaker B: talk about making you feel like a wimp. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's crazy. [00:31:48] Speaker C: What about you guys? When did, what made you come to Christ? [00:31:51] Speaker B: You first. I grew up Amish and I sure you heard that Mike did as well. And so we grew up in, in case you didn't know, most Amish are Christians. That's so terrible. I would say all of them at least profess to be right. But so we did grow up in a, in a Christian household or I did. And so I would just say I had a little bit of a skew perspective of what salvation is really all about. But as I got older I did start asking a lot of questions in my teenage years. But really I was like 21 years old before I really would say I accepted Christ and really started understanding the salvation. And then at 23, I got, I was baptized at 23 years old. But yeah, I would say it was more of a gradual. Like I kind of had an understanding but didn't really. Still didn't really had too much of a works based faith. I would say like too much of that perspective until I did get a little bit older and started understanding more and, and reading the Bible more. And it's recently saw a little clip on, I don't know, social media somewhere. It's like the, the guy said this was one of his favorite passages or messages from a pastor. And it was just a few minutes long. And it was about the guy on the cross that Christ saved. You know, last minute the one was like, you know, cursing him or whatever and you know, taunting him. Almost like, why don't, if you're God, you know, why don't you get you off this cross and stuff? And the other one's like, no, we're, we deserve this. This guy didn't even do anything. And just that like understanding that humility that that guy had and the repentance that he was feeling. Christ says, you will be with me in paradise today. And it's like, isn't that kind of a crazy story? Like, yeah, he didn't get baptized. He didn't go to church every Sunday. He didn't do, you know. No, that's not what it's about. It's about that repentance. And I, it was great message. I'm sure I'm butchering, but go do [00:34:07] Speaker D: a little research [00:34:09] Speaker A: anyway. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Take over. [00:34:13] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. So for myself I would say like, yeah, growing up Obviously we went to church, knew about God. Never really. I don't know. I wouldn't say I necessarily accepted him. As a kid, when I was about, let's see, 18, 19 years old, I moved out of my mom and dad's house, moved into another house and got into drugs. Got into drugs. And we were doing, yeah, all kinds of bad stuff. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Tell them what it was. It might help them. [00:34:42] Speaker D: Yeah, Doing crack cocaine started off with marijuana. And in my opinion, like people say marijuana is a gateway drug to the next thing. I don't, I don't believe that I would say it. It may be a gateway because of the people that you hang out with. It's not necessarily that somebody's going to smoke marijuana and be like, oh, I want to go smoke crack. It's not, I don't think that way. But it's the people that you hang out with. And yeah, got. Got around the wrong group of people. And that's why, like you, like you said earlier, you're really careful with who you hang out with. That is very important because you are. You become who you hang out with. You just will. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:17] Speaker D: And I got into drugs. I was doing drugs and stuff and I had a good job and a lot of the people that were around me and it was with basically me, my brother and one of my friends lived there and we were all into it. And so my brother was, he was way worse than what I had. What I was into it. And I just seen, I seen the road that he was going down and I was on the same road and yeah, basically I, I did not want to go down that road. He was, he was. He got into it way worse than I did. And like, my job ended up taking me on. Like, we went on stay away a lot. So we weren't. I was not actually at the house the whole time or like that much. Yeah, so when I was gone, I wouldn't do drugs. Like, I was at work. Like, I got away from it. And anybody that's ever done crack, like, it is legit. It is the hardest thing. And my personality, I've quit a lot of things over, over the past, you know, 10, 15 years. That is by far the hardest thing I've ever had to quit. Like, it was like, if you were around it, I don't know, it was super hard to not do it. Like, you had to, had to get away from it. But yeah, I was, I was really. I would say I was pretty far down, down in the dumps. And basically just I was praying to the Lord, like, help me stop. Help me get out of this. And yeah, ended up, I was broke, didn't have any more money, I couldn't pay the rent. Ended up having to move back to my mom and dad's place. And honestly that was, that was the best case scenario that could have happened there because I didn't have money to do drugs. I didn't have money to actually live there anymore. Ended up, yeah, moving back and being able to get away from that all. My brother, I feel like, like if God wouldn't have helped me out of that situation, I would be probably where my brother's at today and he's in prison. [00:37:07] Speaker A: So when you, when you went home, is that when you would say you [00:37:10] Speaker D: become, you know, again, I would say no. It was before I actually moved back home. I was in bed, laying in bed one night and just praying to God, like, yeah, help me, save me, get me out of this place. And yeah, I basically, I accepted God at that point and thankfully, yeah, I was able to get out of it all. Yeah, my brother. And at that point, like, I was, I was into it kind of deep, but my brother was. I didn't realize it, but my brother was in it way deeper than what I was. And honestly, like, after I left that whole situation, it was not that difficult for me to, to stop. Like, I stopped. I did not hang out with those people anymore. And yeah, continued on with my life. My brother, on the other hand, he didn't stop. He. Well, he's in prison today. [00:38:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:00] Speaker D: And he's been basically the past 10 years he's been in and out of jail. So just for example, I guess so basically like we were on the same track. I feel like God helped me get away from that all. And my brother went, you know, kept on going down that road. He's in prison today and I'm here sitting here part of New Way ag Drone Deer recovery. And yeah, it's just amazing what we have. And there's no way that I'll be here without God for sure. [00:38:26] Speaker A: That's good. I don't think anybody else has ever heard Jay's story. Jay is obviously a business partner with Drone Deer Recovery because we were, we were partners in anywhere tree care. As Drone Deer recovery started taking off and, and we seen the growth potential of it. He was still doing anywhere Tree Care and I approached him to, hey, Jay, quit that. Like, let's just do full time drones. It took me a while to like convince him that this is actually going to be a thing. But yeah, that's how he's. [00:38:53] Speaker D: It was. Well, it was hard because we had a really good business, we were making good money, and without being in the industry of drones, it's hard to see it. [00:39:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:04] Speaker D: Like, it really is. [00:39:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:05] Speaker D: And until you get into it, it's like, oh, my gosh, this is a no brainer. Like, why wouldn't you do this? But before it was like, man, I have something good. Why would I want to do that? [00:39:16] Speaker A: Yeah. But like, it was, it was actually when you're. When you're a good arborist and we had all our equipment paid off and everything, it was like, it's a cash cow. Like, you just literally go out and you can crank and make 3,5000 bucks. Pretty easy in a day. [00:39:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:31] Speaker A: And so it's hard to give it up. Like, we could have kept it, but it was just like this. Like, I, you know, it was obviously from the Lord, but it was like, we can grow this thing. So that's when he. [00:39:42] Speaker D: Yeah, I ended up not. I ended up getting baptized probably about a year later. So I didn't get baptized right away. [00:39:47] Speaker C: Gotcha. [00:39:48] Speaker A: But, yeah, I don't think I've ever shared my salvation story of how I actually got saved. I feel like what's crazy is my whole family's Amish. [00:39:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:58] Speaker A: Like, and I started dating a non Amish girl. And it was the hardest thing that. One of the hardest things that I was doing at the time. My Amish family did not want me dating a non Amish girl. I did not accept Christ up to that point. And we. We've been dating for a while. We dated for two years. And every night I would come home and. Let me. Let me say we're. We are solid with my parents now. Okay. So what I'm about to share, this has all been taken care of with my parents. We're totally, really, really good. But at a time my parents did not like that I was with Karen, my now wife. And every night that I would come home, they would give me a hard time and I would come home late and they would stay up late until I would come home. And so we broke up and I was. Everything changed. Parents were super cool and they were like, give me anything. And then I was like, I'm still missing something. And it was Karen, my wife. And I said, okay, I'm going back. Two weeks later, we're Dayton again. And it all went back to how it was prior, and it wasn't good. And somewhere along the line there I seen a Astro van. Do you Know what that is? [00:41:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I've heard of it. Yeah. [00:41:10] Speaker A: So that's like a little minivan thing. That's like a box. I seen it next to a road, and I was like, I want a little minivan so I can go to work with that little minivan and pick up the people that I had to pick up to go to work. And so I stopped in there, and I'm looking at this minivan, and the guy just point blank, like, if you die today, do you know where you're going? I was like. I was like, well, I hope I go to heaven. He's like, did you know that you can know that you can go to heaven, like, today? If you drive down the road and you die, you know that you can go to heaven? And I was like, whoa, whoa. Oh. I don't think that that's how it works according to the Amish. That's where I came from. We were taught, hope you do as good as you can, and you hope you make it to heaven. And so now this guy is telling me that I can know. And I'm like, I want to know, right? [00:42:03] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Like, I want to know that if I'm driving and somebody smashes and kills me that I'm going to heaven. He's like, well, if you ever want to accept Christ, let me know, and I'd be willing to, you know, help you. I was like, okay, thank you very much. Went on my way, and it just kept bugging me. I was like, you're driving and you know that. He said, you can know, but, you know, you might die. And so one day I told Karen, I was like, I'm gonna go over to this guy and I'm gonna accept Jesus. Like, I don't know how to do it. Didn't know. And I was so nervous because I knew my mom and dad did not want me to go with Karen to this place, that I wouldn't tell him where I'm going. I feel so bad for my mom and dad now. But we left, we got there, I accepted Christ. It was so cool. But on the way home, I told Karen that this is not going to be good. When I come home, they're going to be waiting for me, and they're going to want to know what's up. And so I'm on this high, right? Like, I. I now know. Yeah, doggone. At the moment, I was like, man, it'd be nice, you know, I just die and I go to heaven, right? And I'm on the way home, and I was like, this is not going to be good. Got to the house and I walked down the stairs and I can totally remember it. I looked over and my mom was on the chair and she's like, where were you? I was like, mom, you're not going to believe it, but Jesus forgave all my sins. And it was so weird. She just like broke down and was so angry. She was so angry that I went to somebody else to accept Jesus. She couldn't understand why I didn't come to her or dad. And I just didn't know. I didn't know we had, we could do that. Like it wasn't talked about enough that, about the process. Right. We grew up in a, what we would call a Christian home, an Amish home, but never to the point where we would talk about the Lord openly. Up to that point. And it just fell apart. It was like, geez, here I was, I was high and now it's like I was getting yelled at and it's like, this is dumb. Like, I'm going to heaven. And now you're like, not happy, right? It's like, what is going on? It was so bad that they got my brother in law that just became an Amish pastor to come up to talk to me. I was like, what are we gonna talk about? [00:44:29] Speaker C: That's what you stand for. [00:44:30] Speaker A: I'm saved. So it was a little weird, but we're all good now. So we talked about it and it actually helped our family. My whole family. Dude, we can talk spiritual things now. [00:44:43] Speaker C: That's awesome. [00:44:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like we can talk about whatever they want to talk about. But it was a little, little strange when it happened. [00:44:50] Speaker B: I can so 100% relate. Like, I mean, obviously not exactly the same situation, but yeah. Also, you know, being scared to tell your parents you want to at church shouldn't happen, you know, but also that, you know, dealing with the, the fallout, I guess. But now having great relationships with my parents and my in laws, like, couldn't be better. Couldn't be better. And I think they would agree that they have a very different perspective now than they did 20 years ago. Like 100. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Yeah, 100. [00:45:30] Speaker B: Very, very good. Yeah. As far as family goes as well. And I have a lot of Amish brothers. [00:45:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And when we about Amish on, on this podcast when, you know, Dennis is sharing about his, his family's Amish. My family's Amish. There's so many different types of Amish that some of them are never cool with their children later. But are your mom and dad, they're old. Older like mine. [00:45:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Now, they. They weren't growing up. [00:45:58] Speaker A: Okay. So my mom and dad, they would be Amish. What we would call them Old Order Amish. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:04] Speaker A: So there's like, what, 14, probably different types. [00:46:07] Speaker D: Oh, there's probably more than that. There's probably 25. [00:46:10] Speaker B: That's warm. You guys. I bet you there's a. [00:46:14] Speaker A: The old guy knows how many. [00:46:15] Speaker B: I bet you there's a hundred. [00:46:16] Speaker D: Are you serious? [00:46:17] Speaker B: Yes, I'm dead serious. [00:46:18] Speaker D: Well, I don't know. [00:46:19] Speaker B: Not. Maybe not like, right in the area we live, but if you go across [00:46:23] Speaker D: in our area, there's like five main ones. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. Yeah, there's kind of a mains, and then there's whole bunch of different ones in that main one type of thing. [00:46:32] Speaker C: It's. [00:46:33] Speaker B: It's pretty nuts. But it's interesting, you know, I don't regret the way that I. I grew up. You know, I. There's a lot of. [00:46:41] Speaker A: Dude, that's why we have work ethic like crazy. You know, you're doing late hours and we work hard. [00:46:48] Speaker B: We were taught very good principles. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. [00:46:51] Speaker D: And it's not like that. Is. It's not like that for everybody. Like, I can't say that for my parents. Like, I never had. They were never mad at me that I was an Amish. Like, never had an issue. [00:47:00] Speaker A: Well, they weren't really mad at me that it was an Amish. They were just. They. [00:47:04] Speaker D: And I also married a girl that wasn't ever Amish. [00:47:06] Speaker A: They were. It was upsetting to them that they probably didn't make it known to their children that they can come to them, talk, you know, talking about spiritual things. But. [00:47:16] Speaker B: Yeah, and it's what they were taught. It's not like. I mean, we can't judge them too much either, because that is. They. I've always felt they were very sincere in their beliefs, like. Yeah. [00:47:29] Speaker A: So anyway, we didn't really talk much about your spray drone business. I didn't. [00:47:34] Speaker C: No, that's fine. I'd rather talk about this than anything to do with me. [00:47:38] Speaker A: How many drones do you guys fly? [00:47:40] Speaker C: We'll have six for this next year. [00:47:42] Speaker A: Wow. How many acres did you cover? [00:47:43] Speaker C: A little over 20,000. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Wow, that's impressive. That's impressive. [00:47:48] Speaker D: How many guys? [00:47:49] Speaker C: Five to six. But some of them were very few. Me and dad did the brunt of it, like. Yeah. [00:47:56] Speaker D: Is it mostly fungicide? [00:47:58] Speaker C: Yes. Well, we do a lot of specialty stuff too, but mostly fungicide on corn and beans. [00:48:03] Speaker D: Nice. [00:48:03] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:48:04] Speaker C: Yeah. And, yeah, it's just a great opportunity for young farmers. [00:48:10] Speaker D: Oh, this is like, the best thing that has come along for young farmers and generations. [00:48:15] Speaker C: Because I like, in our area, it's pretty tough. Like, cash rent, super high. I really want to farm, and I'm kind of using this to get into the agricultural field to possibly, one day we'll meet people and someday down the road, maybe create relationships to where they'd be interested in letting me farm. [00:48:33] Speaker D: Yep. [00:48:34] Speaker A: That's good. So got something else for me? No. [00:48:39] Speaker C: You got something else for me? [00:48:41] Speaker A: No, that's good. I love it, dude. I. It's just so crazy that I thought something like this might be happening. [00:48:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:49] Speaker A: And then it was like, we got spiritual on the drone on show, and [00:48:53] Speaker C: I just had a feeling when we were. You were speaking in there, I was like. And it was like, right after, I was like, I need to go talk to him. [00:48:58] Speaker A: I thought that I was a little all over the place, but. Yeah, I wouldn't want it. [00:49:04] Speaker C: But it. You showed humility and honesty, and I [00:49:07] Speaker A: think that's what does. When you say he showed humility, what does that mean? [00:49:11] Speaker C: Like, you weren't trying to. [00:49:13] Speaker D: You didn't bullshit people. [00:49:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:15] Speaker D: Like, the one guy asked, how did you. You didn't know about chemicals. What did you do? Like. [00:49:21] Speaker C: Like starting out, you're like, I know nothing. [00:49:23] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:49:23] Speaker C: And I went to people to teach me. [00:49:26] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:26] Speaker C: That's showing humility. [00:49:28] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Don't go too much further. He might become proud of it. It's always so hard, you know? [00:49:41] Speaker A: No, that's good. [00:49:41] Speaker D: How many. How many siblings do you have? [00:49:43] Speaker C: Siblings? Three. [00:49:45] Speaker D: Three, so. [00:49:46] Speaker C: And two sisters. Younger. [00:49:47] Speaker D: Okay, nice. [00:49:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:49] Speaker A: This is good. [00:49:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:52] Speaker D: So you're the oldest. I look. [00:49:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:53] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:49:54] Speaker B: Nice. [00:49:55] Speaker A: I'm excited to see what the Lord's gonna do with here, you and your family and see how things work out. Because it's like, when you openly share, I almost feel like it. It doesn't do this for sure, but it almost makes the Lord want to do big things because you shared. [00:50:14] Speaker C: And that's like, with this field being in drones, you're not around a ton of people, so it's hard to share how to further his kingdom with other people without, you know, seeing a ton of people. So I also saw an opportunity for this. Yeah, that's a great place. [00:50:32] Speaker A: I appreciate you. [00:50:33] Speaker C: The God. The Lord can use me in this area. [00:50:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So thanks so much for. [00:50:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:38] Speaker A: Approaching me and coming up. Thanks for quickly. Your accident. Like, walk us through how that went. Like, I was being dumb okay. [00:50:47] Speaker C: Young and dumb on a dirt bike. [00:50:51] Speaker D: So what you're telling me is I should not get my little kids a dirt bike? [00:50:53] Speaker C: No, I. No, you should get a dirt bike. It's a lot of fun, but it's my own stupidity on a bike that's pretty big and wheelie down a highway and fell over backwards and didn't have my phone or anything. A local farmer picked me, heard the crash and picked me up. And it was so. I wasn't out or anything. And it wasn't like. Like when I say I broke my neck, I didn't even know I broke it. I was completely functional. And it wasn't until I. When I was doing the bodybuilding stuff, I was weightlifting and I tweaked, like, did some lift, like stresses. Your neck? [00:51:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:51:28] Speaker C: And my neck just went to the side like this and just locked up. And then I ended up going to the doctor and it turns out it was just a muscle thing. But then they X rayed and everything. They're like, yeah, you. You broke your neck. And at that time, I was playing football and they're like, can't play football. [00:51:41] Speaker D: Wow. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That could have been crazy. [00:51:44] Speaker C: Yeah. So did you. [00:51:46] Speaker A: You had accepted the Lord before that? [00:51:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker A: Okay. [00:51:49] Speaker C: It wasn't like a specific thing for me. It was more like gradual over time, slowly and slowly. Just the more and more things that I can't even remember. [00:51:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:59] Speaker C: Slowly built my relationship. [00:52:01] Speaker A: So that's cool. Alrighty. [00:52:04] Speaker C: Thanks for having me. [00:52:04] Speaker A: Yeah, no problem. Thanks for approaching us. And I would say that that's probably as deep spiritually that we've gotten and [00:52:13] Speaker D: steepest I've ever gotten on here, I can tell you that. Cool. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Alrighty, guys, thanks so much for tuning in. We'll catch you guys next week.